[Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling aPalin'onDowntown Parking

g. crabtree jampot at roadrunner.com
Sat Jul 11 14:48:48 PDT 2009


Sounds as though we are more in agreement then not. Let's leave it at that.

g
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sunil Ramalingam 
  Cc: vision 2020 
  Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 2:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling aPalin'onDowntown Parking


  Gary,

  You're here right now pretending McCain didn't make the joke.  I've never seen video of it, and apparently that's the only proof you'll accept.  Meanwhile in the reality-based community there's not much question about it.

  As for Craig...damn right I'd object to it in the courtroom, that's my job, even if I believe the rumor to be true.  And I'd have told him to see if he could get the charge amended to disturbing the peace and try to make it go away, which is what he tried to do.  I'll bet a lawyer told him to do that when it happened. I don't believe he never consulted with a lawyer prior to his plea.  Of course we can't know unless he gives that lawyer permission to speak about it, or he tells us himself; both are unlikely to happen.

  It's not a case I'd be eager to take to trial if I could get a decent offer. And I sure wouldn't want to put him on the stand to tell his version of it, the one you believe.  Well, I'd do it if I could get six of you in the jury box; maybe just you  would be enough if we wanted to put our hopes on a hung jury. 

  But I wouldn't take that chance with you for a client who wasn't a Republican senator.  I think you'd be able to call bullshit on that story if it weren't Craig telling it.

  Getting back to the original point, Palin's a public figure, and she's fair game.  Her kids should be off limits, unless they take steps to make themselves into public figures. Bristol Palin's done that with her decision to become a spokesperson for abstinence, but I still wouldn't make jokes about her and the Yankee third baseman.

  Sunil


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  From: jampot at roadrunner.com
  To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
  CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'onDowntown Parking
  Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:28:59 -0700


  Would you be willing to provide me with the quote in which I said either of those things? I don't doubt for a second that McCain could have made the joke. (it was only half funny. I think Chelsea is kind of cute) I also know that hanson can't document it. With regard to Craig, can you provide indisputable proof that he's gay? He might well be but, pleading guilty to disorderly conduct really doesn't make as strong a case as you seem to think. The only sure proof would be for Craig to come out and admit to the fact. He hasn't. Apart from that everything else is conjecture. I'm would have to believe that you would object to it in the courtroom, why do you embrace it here?

  g
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Sunil Ramalingam 
    Cc: vision 2020 
    Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:46 AM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'onDowntown Parking


    Gary,

    I don't know what's sillier, your delusional belief that McCain didn't make that joke, or that Larry Craig is telling the truth.  

    Sunil

    > From: jampot at roadrunner.com
    > To: thansen at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
    > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
    > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin' onDowntown Parking
    > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:08:18 -0700
    > 
    > Actually, why don't you document the example you just provided. Hows about 
    > you provide a link to the video or the audio of McCain actually making that 
    > particular jape? I'm afraid a mention on a left wing web site isn't quite 
    > the definitive documentation needed to convince me. Being the lists u-tube 
    > guru, this ought to be a fairly simple matter for you to arrange.
    > 
    > Maybe while you're at it find something equivalent to the amusing anecdotes 
    > involving the 14 year old daughters of conservative western state governors 
    > having casual sex in public with baseball players widely noted for their 
    > inability to keep it in their trousers. That would be a real hoot.
    > 
    > I'll be waiting for that link...
    > 
    > g
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
    > To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
    > Cc: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
    > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 12:10 PM
    > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin' onDowntown 
    > Parking
    > 
    > 
    > > For instance . . .
    > >
    > > "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." "
    > >
    > > - Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
    > >
    > > http://crooksandliars.com/2008/02/09/john-mccains-crude-chelsea-clinton-joke/
    > >
    > > -------------
    > >
    > > Let me know if you are interested in more McCain-isms, g. And be specific
    > > if you prefer McCain during the early years (1988 - 2000) or something
    > > more contemporary, ok?
    > >
    > > Tom Hansen
    > > Moscow, Idaho
    > >
    > >>
    > >> Really? You've never heard of it before?
    > >>
    > >> S
    > >>
    > >> From: lockshop at pull.twcbc.com
    > >> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
    > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'
    > >> onDowntown Parking
    > >> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:49:27 -0700
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Document?
    > >>
    > >> g
    > >>
    > >> ----- Original Message -----
    > >> From:
    > >> Sunil Ramalingam
    > >> Cc: vision 2020
    > >> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:27
    > >> AM
    > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City
    > >> Council 'Pulling a Palin' onDowntown Parking
    > >>
    > >> Gary,
    > >>
    > >> I guess you could ask John McCain about where the
    > >> limits are; based on his behavior, he seemed to believe in 1998 that it
    > >> was
    > >> open season on Hillary Clinton, Janet Reno, and Chelsea Clinton, when
    > >> the last
    > >> was 18. At least she was no longer legally a
    > >> child.
    > >>
    > >> Sunil
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>> From: lockshop at pull.twcbc.com
    > >>> To:
    > >> jampot at roadrunner.com
    > >>> Date:
    > >> Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:47:26 -0700
    > >>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
    > >>>
    > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin' on
    > >> Downtown
    > >> Parking
    > >>>
    > >>> No appology required (after all, I'm not the one
    > >> being crudely refered to)
    > >>> but, does this mean that any vulgar or
    > >> sexual remark is fair game when
    > >>> discussing public figures? I don't
    > >> think I am personally willing to go down
    > >>> that path but it would be
    > >> nice to know what the current ground rules are. Is
    > >>> it now going to be
    > >> cool to make ribald, boardering on obscene suggestions
    > >>> about Michele
    > >> Obama? Can we now go crazy when remarking on Hillary's looks
    > >>> and
    > >> sexuality? Can we drop it on down to the local level and smear Mayor
    > >>>
    > >> Chaney with remarks simalar to those made by late night TV hacks? 
    > >> Please
    > >>
    > >>> fill me in with regard to where the boundries are going to be set or
    > >> if
    > >>> there will be any at all. It pains me to be behind the curve.
    > >> Speaking of
    > >>> which:
    > >>>
    > >>> Emailing:
    > >> 6a00d8341c4df253ef011570f27fe3970c-800wi
    > >>>
    > >>> g
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >> ----- Original Message -----
    > >>> From: <bear at moscow.com>
    > >>>
    > >> To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
    > >>> Cc: "Moscow Vision 2020"
    > >> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
    > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:50
    > >> PM
    > >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin' on
    > >> Downtown
    > >>> Parking
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> >
    > >>> > GARY:
    > >> I'll apologize up front, this IS a cheep shot but I just can't
    > >>> >
    > >> resist!
    > >>> >
    > >>> >
    > >>> > Would this be considered
    > >> "Governorus Interruptus" by the only Palin with
    > >>> > the sense to pull
    > >> out early? *S*
    > >>> >
    > >>> >
    > >>> >
    > >>> >
    > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > >>>
    > >> >> The Urban Dictionary has adopted a new phrase for its dictionary
    > >> (with
    > >>> >> four definitions):
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >>
    > >> "Puling a Palin"
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> Courtesy of the Urban
    > >> Dictionary at:
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >>
    > >> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pulling+a+palin
    > >>>
    > >> >>
    > >>> >>
    > >> ---------------------------------------------
    > >>> >>
    > >>>
    > >> >> 1. Pulling a Palin
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> The Republican
    > >> art of disguising your inept knowledge by answering a
    > >>> >>
    > >> question with another question as in "with what respect Charlie?"
    > >>>
    > >> >>
    > >>> >> Charlie asks "do you agree with the Bush
    > >> Doctrine?"
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> Sarah responds "in what respect
    > >> Charlie?" "do you mean his world view"
    > >>> >> staring with blank
    > >> ignorance at Charlie.
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> Sarah was just caught
    > >> Pulling a Palin!
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> ---------
    > >>>
    > >> >>
    > >>> >> 2. Pulling a Palin
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >>
    > >> Telling a large and obvious lie for personal gain.
    > >>> >>
    > >>>
    > >> >> Even though I have a herpes sore on my lip, I'm pulling a Palin
    > >> and
    > >>> >> telling her I'm a virgin.
    > >>> >>
    > >>>
    > >> >> ---------
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> 3. Pulling a
    > >> Palin
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> Rambling non-stop unrelated
    > >> information to try to hide the fact that you
    > >>> >> have no clue
    > >> about what someone just asked you.
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> COURIC:
    > >> Why isn't it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion
    > >>> >>
    > >> helping
    > >>> >> middle-class families struggling with health care,
    > >> housing, gas and
    > >>> >> groceries? Allow them to spend more and put
    > >> more money into the economy?
    > >>> >> Instead of helping these big
    > >> financial institutions that played a role in
    > >>> >> creating this
    > >> mess?
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> PALIN: That's why I say, I like...
    > >> ever American I'm speaking with were
    > >>> >> ill about this position
    > >> that we have been put in where it is the tax
    > >>> >> payers looking
    > >> to bailout.
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> But ultimately, what the bailout
    > >> does... is... help... those... who are
    > >>> >> concerned about the
    > >> health care reform that is needed to help shore up
    > >>> >>
    > >> the
    > >>> >> economy ... Helping the ... Oh, it's got to be about job
    > >> creation too.
    > >>> >> Shoring up our economy and putting it back on
    > >> the right track. So health
    > >>> >> care reform... and reducing
    > >> taxes... and reining in spending has got to
    > >>> >> accompany tax
    > >> reductions... and tax relief for Americas... And trade...
    > >>> >>
    > >> we've got to see trade... mmm... as opportunity... mmm... not as a
    > >>>
    > >> >> competitive scary thing. But 1 in 5 jobs being created in the trade
    > >>
    > >>> >> sector
    > >>> >> today. We've got to look at that as
    > >> more opportunity... All those things
    > >>> >> under the umbrella of
    > >> job creation. This bailout is a part of that.
    > >>> >>
    > >>>
    > >> >> COURIC: Are you pulling a Palin?
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >>
    > >> PALIN: Yes.
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> ---------
    > >>>
    > >> >>
    > >>> >> 4. Pulling a Palin 10 up, 2 down
    > >>>
    > >> >>
    > >>> >> Pulling a Palin is the act of being chosen for the
    > >> Republican party Vice
    > >>> >> President while knowing that your 17
    > >> year old daughter is pregnant. This
    > >>> >> adds a lot of controversy
    > >> to the election as the family values and
    > >>> >> truthiness of Palin
    > >> are scrutinized.
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> Nick is Pulling a Palin by
    > >> entering that marathon with his heart
    > >>> >> condition.
    > >>>
    > >> >>
    > >>> >>
    > >> ---------------------------------------------
    > >>> >>
    > >>>
    > >> >> In light of . . .
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >>
    > >> http://www.moscowcares.com/070609_06_DowntownParking.htm
    > >>>
    > >> >>
    > >>> >> We must now ask ourselves seriously, Visionaires . .
    > >> .
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> Is our City Council pulling a
    > >> Palin?
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> Seeya round town, Moscow.
    > >>>
    > >> >>
    > >>> >> Tom Hansen
    > >>> >> Moscow, Idaho
    > >>>
    > >> >>
    > >>> >> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the
    > >> Optimist expects it to
    > >>> >> change
    > >>> >> and the
    > >> Realist adjusts his sails."
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