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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Sounds as though we are more in agreement then not. Let's
leave it at that.</FONT></DIV>
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Gary,<BR><BR>You're here right now pretending McCain didn't make the
joke. I've never seen video of it, and apparently that's the only proof
you'll accept. Meanwhile in the reality-based community there's not much
question about it.<BR><BR>As for Craig...damn right I'd object to it in the
courtroom, that's my job, even if I believe the rumor to be true. And
I'd have told him to see if he could get the charge amended to disturbing the
peace and try to make it go away, which is what he tried to do. I'll bet
a lawyer told him to do that when it happened. I don't believe he never
consulted with a lawyer prior to his plea. Of course we can't know
unless he gives that lawyer permission to speak about it, or he tells us
himself; both are unlikely to happen.<BR><BR>It's not a case I'd be eager to
take to trial if I could get a decent offer. And I sure wouldn't want to put
him on the stand to tell his version of it, the one you believe. Well,
I'd do it if I could get six of you in the jury box; maybe just you
would be enough if we wanted to put our hopes on a hung jury. <BR><BR>But I
wouldn't take that chance with you for a client who wasn't a Republican
senator. I think you'd be able to call bullshit on that story if it
weren't Craig telling it.<BR><BR>Getting back to the original point, Palin's a
public figure, and she's fair game. Her kids should be off limits,
unless they take steps to make themselves into public figures. Bristol Palin's
done that with her decision to become a spokesperson for abstinence, but I
still wouldn't make jokes about her and the Yankee third
baseman.<BR><BR>Sunil<BR><BR>
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From: jampot@roadrunner.com<BR>To: sunilramalingam@hotmail.com<BR>CC:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Would you be willing to provide me with the quote in
which I said either of those things? I don't doubt for a second that McCain
could have made the joke. (it was only half funny. I think Chelsea is kind of
cute) I also know that hanson can't document it. With regard to Craig, can you
provide indisputable proof that he's gay? He might well be but, pleading
guilty to disorderly conduct really doesn't make as strong a case as you seem
to think. The only sure proof would be for Craig to come out and admit to the
fact. He hasn't. Apart from that everything else is conjecture. I'm would have
to believe that you would object to it in the courtroom, why do you
embrace it here?</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">Sunil Ramalingam</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Gary,<BR><BR>I don't know what's sillier, your delusional
belief that McCain didn't make that joke, or that Larry Craig is telling the
truth. <BR><BR>Sunil<BR><BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</A><BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</A><BR>>
CC: <A href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin' onDowntown
Parking<BR>> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:08:18 -0700<BR>> <BR>>
Actually, why don't you document the example you just provided. Hows about
<BR>> you provide a link to the video or the audio of McCain actually
making that <BR>> particular jape? I'm afraid a mention on a left wing
web site isn't quite <BR>> the definitive documentation needed to
convince me. Being the lists u-tube <BR>> guru, this ought to be a fairly
simple matter for you to arrange.<BR>> <BR>> Maybe while you're at it
find something equivalent to the amusing anecdotes <BR>> involving the 14
year old daughters of conservative western state governors <BR>> having
casual sex in public with baseball players widely noted for their <BR>>
inability to keep it in their trousers. That would be a real hoot.<BR>>
<BR>> I'll be waiting for that link...<BR>> <BR>> g<BR>> -----
Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Tom Hansen"
<thansen@moscow.com><BR>> To: "Sunil Ramalingam"
<sunilramalingam@hotmail.com><BR>> Cc: "vision 2020"
<vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 12:10
PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'
onDowntown <BR>> Parking<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > For instance . .
.<BR>> ><BR>> > "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her
father is Janet Reno." "<BR>> ><BR>> > - Sen. John McCain,
speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.<BR>> ><BR>> >
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/02/09/john-mccains-crude-chelsea-clinton-joke/<BR>>
><BR>> > -------------<BR>> ><BR>> > Let me know if you
are interested in more McCain-isms, g. And be specific<BR>> > if you
prefer McCain during the early years (1988 - 2000) or something<BR>> >
more contemporary, ok?<BR>> ><BR>> > Tom Hansen<BR>> >
Moscow, Idaho<BR>> ><BR>> >><BR>> >> Really? You've
never heard of it before?<BR>> >><BR>> >> S<BR>>
>><BR>> >> From: lockshop@pull.twcbc.com<BR>> >> To:
sunilramalingam@hotmail.com<BR>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is
Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'<BR>> >> onDowntown
Parking<BR>> >> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:49:27 -0700<BR>>
>><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>>
>><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>>
>><BR>> >><BR>> >> Document?<BR>>
>><BR>> >> g<BR>> >><BR>> >> ----- Original
Message -----<BR>> >> From:<BR>> >> Sunil
Ramalingam<BR>> >> Cc: vision 2020<BR>> >> Sent: Friday,
July 10, 2009 11:27<BR>> >> AM<BR>> >> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Is Our City<BR>> >> Council 'Pulling a Palin'
onDowntown Parking<BR>> >><BR>> >> Gary,<BR>>
>><BR>> >> I guess you could ask John McCain about where
the<BR>> >> limits are; based on his behavior, he seemed to believe
in 1998 that it<BR>> >> was<BR>> >> open season on Hillary
Clinton, Janet Reno, and Chelsea Clinton, when<BR>> >> the
last<BR>> >> was 18. At least she was no longer legally a<BR>>
>> child.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Sunil<BR>>
>><BR>> >><BR>> >>> From:
lockshop@pull.twcbc.com<BR>> >>> To:<BR>> >>
jampot@roadrunner.com<BR>> >>> Date:<BR>> >> Fri, 10
Jul 2009 09:47:26 -0700<BR>> >>> CC:
vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> >>><BR>> >> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin' on<BR>> >>
Downtown<BR>> >> Parking<BR>> >>><BR>> >>>
No appology required (after all, I'm not the one<BR>> >> being
crudely refered to)<BR>> >>> but, does this mean that any vulgar
or<BR>> >> sexual remark is fair game when<BR>> >>>
discussing public figures? I don't<BR>> >> think I am personally
willing to go down<BR>> >>> that path but it would be<BR>>
>> nice to know what the current ground rules are. Is<BR>>
>>> it now going to be<BR>> >> cool to make ribald,
boardering on obscene suggestions<BR>> >>> about Michele<BR>>
>> Obama? Can we now go crazy when remarking on Hillary's
looks<BR>> >>> and<BR>> >> sexuality? Can we drop it on
down to the local level and smear Mayor<BR>> >>><BR>>
>> Chaney with remarks simalar to those made by late night TV hacks?
<BR>> >> Please<BR>> >><BR>> >>> fill me in
with regard to where the boundries are going to be set or<BR>> >>
if<BR>> >>> there will be any at all. It pains me to be behind
the curve.<BR>> >> Speaking of<BR>> >>> which:<BR>>
>>><BR>> >>> Emailing:<BR>> >>
6a00d8341c4df253ef011570f27fe3970c-800wi<BR>> >>><BR>>
>>> g<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>
----- Original Message -----<BR>> >>> From:
<bear@moscow.com><BR>> >>><BR>> >> To: "Tom
Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><BR>> >>> Cc: "Moscow Vision
2020"<BR>> >> <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> >>>
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:50<BR>> >> PM<BR>> >>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin' on<BR>>
>> Downtown<BR>> >>> Parking<BR>> >>><BR>>
>>><BR>> >>> ><BR>> >>> >
GARY:<BR>> >> I'll apologize up front, this IS a cheep shot but I
just can't<BR>> >>> ><BR>> >> resist!<BR>>
>>> ><BR>> >>> ><BR>> >>> > Would
this be considered<BR>> >> "Governorus Interruptus" by the only
Palin with<BR>> >>> > the sense to pull<BR>> >> out
early? *S*<BR>> >>> ><BR>> >>> ><BR>>
>>> ><BR>> >>> ><BR>> >>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>
>>><BR>> >> >> The Urban Dictionary has adopted a
new phrase for its dictionary<BR>> >> (with<BR>> >>>
>> four definitions):<BR>> >>> >><BR>>
>>> >><BR>> >> "Puling a Palin"<BR>> >>>
>><BR>> >>> >> Courtesy of the Urban<BR>>
>> Dictionary at:<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>>
>><BR>> >>
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pulling+a+palin<BR>>
>>><BR>> >> >><BR>> >>> >><BR>>
>> ---------------------------------------------<BR>> >>>
>><BR>> >>><BR>> >> >> 1. Pulling a
Palin<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>> >> The
Republican<BR>> >> art of disguising your inept knowledge by
answering a<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >> question with
another question as in "with what respect Charlie?"<BR>>
>>><BR>> >> >><BR>> >>> >> Charlie
asks "do you agree with the Bush<BR>> >> Doctrine?"<BR>>
>>> >><BR>> >>> >> Sarah responds "in what
respect<BR>> >> Charlie?" "do you mean his world view"<BR>>
>>> >> staring with blank<BR>> >> ignorance at
Charlie.<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>> >> Sarah
was just caught<BR>> >> Pulling a Palin!<BR>> >>>
>><BR>> >>> >> ---------<BR>>
>>><BR>> >> >><BR>> >>> >> 2.
Pulling a Palin<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>>
>><BR>> >> Telling a large and obvious lie for personal
gain.<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>><BR>> >>
>> Even though I have a herpes sore on my lip, I'm pulling a
Palin<BR>> >> and<BR>> >>> >> telling her I'm a
virgin.<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>><BR>> >>
>> ---------<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>>
>> 3. Pulling a<BR>> >> Palin<BR>> >>>
>><BR>> >>> >> Rambling non-stop unrelated<BR>>
>> information to try to hide the fact that you<BR>> >>>
>> have no clue<BR>> >> about what someone just asked
you.<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>> >>
COURIC:<BR>> >> Why isn't it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700
billion<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >> helping<BR>>
>>> >> middle-class families struggling with health
care,<BR>> >> housing, gas and<BR>> >>> >>
groceries? Allow them to spend more and put<BR>> >> more money into
the economy?<BR>> >>> >> Instead of helping these
big<BR>> >> financial institutions that played a role in<BR>>
>>> >> creating this<BR>> >> mess?<BR>>
>>> >><BR>> >>> >> PALIN: That's why I say,
I like...<BR>> >> ever American I'm speaking with were<BR>>
>>> >> ill about this position<BR>> >> that we have
been put in where it is the tax<BR>> >>> >> payers
looking<BR>> >> to bailout.<BR>> >>> >><BR>>
>>> >> But ultimately, what the bailout<BR>> >>
does... is... help... those... who are<BR>> >>> >>
concerned about the<BR>> >> health care reform that is needed to
help shore up<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >> the<BR>>
>>> >> economy ... Helping the ... Oh, it's got to be about
job<BR>> >> creation too.<BR>> >>> >> Shoring up
our economy and putting it back on<BR>> >> the right track. So
health<BR>> >>> >> care reform... and reducing<BR>>
>> taxes... and reining in spending has got to<BR>> >>>
>> accompany tax<BR>> >> reductions... and tax relief for
Americas... And trade...<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>
we've got to see trade... mmm... as opportunity... mmm... not as a<BR>>
>>><BR>> >> >> competitive scary thing. But 1 in 5
jobs being created in the trade<BR>> >><BR>> >>>
>> sector<BR>> >>> >> today. We've got to look at
that as<BR>> >> more opportunity... All those things<BR>>
>>> >> under the umbrella of<BR>> >> job creation.
This bailout is a part of that.<BR>> >>> >><BR>>
>>><BR>> >> >> COURIC: Are you pulling a
Palin?<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>> >><BR>>
>> PALIN: Yes.<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>>
>> ---------<BR>> >>><BR>> >> >><BR>>
>>> >> 4. Pulling a Palin 10 up, 2 down<BR>>
>>><BR>> >> >><BR>> >>> >> Pulling
a Palin is the act of being chosen for the<BR>> >> Republican party
Vice<BR>> >>> >> President while knowing that your
17<BR>> >> year old daughter is pregnant. This<BR>> >>>
>> adds a lot of controversy<BR>> >> to the election as the
family values and<BR>> >>> >> truthiness of Palin<BR>>
>> are scrutinized.<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>>
>> Nick is Pulling a Palin by<BR>> >> entering that marathon
with his heart<BR>> >>> >> condition.<BR>>
>>><BR>> >> >><BR>> >>> >><BR>>
>> ---------------------------------------------<BR>> >>>
>><BR>> >>><BR>> >> >> In light of . .
.<BR>> >>> >><BR>> >>> >><BR>>
>> http://www.moscowcares.com/070609_06_DowntownParking.htm<BR>>
>>><BR>> >> >><BR>> >>> >> We must
now ask ourselves seriously, Visionaires . .<BR>> >> .<BR>>
>>> >><BR>> >>> >> Is our City Council
pulling a<BR>> >> Palin?<BR>> >>> >><BR>>
>>> >> Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>> >>><BR>>
>> >><BR>> >>> >> Tom Hansen<BR>>
>>> >> Moscow, Idaho<BR>> >>><BR>> >>
>><BR>> >>> >> "The Pessimist complains about the
wind, the<BR>> >> Optimist expects it to<BR>> >>>
>> change<BR>> >>> >> and the<BR>> >>
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