[Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'onDowntown Parking
Carl Westberg
idahovandal1 at live.com
Sat Jul 11 14:19:51 PDT 2009
Knowing how much you undoubtedly love Maureen Dowd... http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/21/opinion/liberties-the-joke-s-on-him.html Her commentary really isn't the point with me. McCain's quote is simply contained therein. My point being, again, that verbal gaffes are made by all of us, regardless of political leaning, and we can spend too much time getting exercised over human mistakes. Mr. McCain apologized, and I'm sure that Chelsea, who has indeed grown up to be a very lovely young woman, is completely over this now. Letterman made a gaffe, he has apologized, and I'm sure that Ms. Palin will grow up to be a lovely young woman, and will likewise grow and prosper.
From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: idahovandal1 at live.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'onDowntown Parking
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:09:36 -0700
And the link to this 1998 NYT story is where? Search as I
might I can find no documentation of McCain making the joke or, specifically
apologizing for it. Insensitive jokes in general, yes. This precise joke, no.
Lots of chatter by others referring to it but we all
know what that counts for.
g
----- Original Message -----
From:
Carl
Westberg
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 10:20
AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City
Council 'Pulling a Palin'onDowntown Parking
In John McCain's own words, quoted from a New York Times story
in 1998:
The joke that he thought was funny was about Chelsea
Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton and Janet Reno.
''This is the bad boy,'' he
(McCain) said in a phone interview. ''It was stupid and cruel and insensitive.
I've apologized. I can't take it back. I could give you a whole bunch of
excuses, but there are no excuses. I was wrong, but do you want me crucified?
How many days does it need to be a story?''
He said the Senator who spoke
just before he did to the Republican fat cats made a tasteless joke about
Viagra. ''So I got up and said, 'You think that was a tasteless joke? Listen
to this one.' The minute it came out of my mouth, I thought, 'Oh no, this is a
terrible mistake.' ''
But, he added, defensively, ''I will always maintain
a sense of humor. Life is too short not to.''
Be it resolved: Neither
conservatives or liberals, neither Republicans or Democrats (or Libertarians
or Constitution Party, or Green Party or Save the Whales Party, or Eliminate
the Designated Hitter Party) are above reproach when it comes to saying things
that, in retrospect, probably should not have been
said.
> From: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> To: bear at moscow.com
>
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:04:53 -0700
> CC:
vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council
'Pulling a Palin' onDowntown Parking
>
> The joke -- in poor
taste, admittedly -- was not about the 14 year
> old. That is just the
Palin/Republican spin to make it sound worse
> than it was.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM,
bear at moscow.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Even I draw the
privacy line at Palin's 14 year old daughter! What
> > professional
sports team(s) she has sex with is her business and
> > shouldn't be
a matter of public discussion.
> >
> > ---
> > ---
> > ---
> > ---
> > ---
> > ---
> > ---
> > ---
> > ---
> > ---
> > ---
> > ---
> >
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>
>> And since Letterman was making a joke about Palin's eldest
>
>> daughter, I
> >> won't be running that other errand for
you either. Look for it
> >> yourself
> >> if you're
that interested in it.
> >>
> >> Sunil
>
>>
> >>> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> >>>
To: thansen at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> >>> CC:
vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our
City Council 'Pulling a Palin'
> >>> onDowntown Parking
>
>>> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:08:18 -0700
>
>>>
> >>> Actually, why don't you document the example
you just provided. Hows
> >>> about
> >>> you
provide a link to the video or the audio of McCain actually
>
>>> making
> >>> that
> >>> particular
jape? I'm afraid a mention on a left wing web site isn't
> >>>
quite
> >>> the definitive documentation needed to convince me.
Being the lists
> >>> u-tube
> >>> guru, this
ought to be a fairly simple matter for you to arrange.
>
>>>
> >>> Maybe while you're at it find something
equivalent to the amusing
> >>> anecdotes
> >>>
involving the 14 year old daughters of conservative western state
>
>>> governors
> >>> having casual sex in public with
baseball players widely noted for
> >>> their
>
>>> inability to keep it in their trousers. That would be a real
hoot.
> >>>
> >>> I'll be waiting for that
link...
> >>>
> >>> g
> >>> -----
Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Tom Hansen"
<thansen at moscow.com>
> >>> To: "Sunil Ramalingam"
<sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> >>> Cc: "vision 2020"
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009
12:10 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is Our City Council
'Pulling a Palin'
> >>> onDowntown
> >>>
Parking
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> For
instance . . .
> >>>>
> >>>> "Why is
Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet
> >>>>
Reno." "
> >>>>
> >>>> - Sen. John McCain,
speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
> >>>>
>
>>>>
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/02/09/john-mccains-crude-chelsea-clinton-joke/
>
>>>>
> >>>> -------------
>
>>>>
> >>>> Let me know if you are interested in
more McCain-isms, g. And be
> >>> specific
>
>>>> if you prefer McCain during the early years (1988 - 2000) or
> >>>> something
> >>>> more
contemporary, ok?
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom
Hansen
> >>>> Moscow, Idaho
> >>>>
>
>>>>>
> >>>>> Really? You've never heard
of it before?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
S
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From:
lockshop at pull.twcbc.com
> >>>>> To:
sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> >>>>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'
>
>>>>> onDowntown Parking
> >>>>> Date:
Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:49:27 -0700
> >>>>>
>
>>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>>
> >>>>> Document?
>
>>>>>
> >>>>> g
>
>>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message
-----
> >>>>> From:
> >>>>> Sunil
Ramalingam
> >>>>> Cc: vision 2020
>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:27
>
>>>>> AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Is Our City
> >>>>> Council 'Pulling a Palin' onDowntown
Parking
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
Gary,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I guess you
could ask John McCain about where the
> >>>>> limits are;
based on his behavior, he seemed to believe in 1998
> >>> that
it
> >>>>> was
> >>>>> open season
on Hillary Clinton, Janet Reno, and Chelsea Clinton,
> >>>
when
> >>>>> the last
> >>>>> was
18. At least she was no longer legally a
> >>>>>
child.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sunil
>
>>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>>> From: lockshop at pull.twcbc.com
>
>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>
jampot at roadrunner.com
> >>>>>> Date:
>
>>>>> Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:47:26 -0700
>
>>>>>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'
>
>>>>> on
> >>>>> Downtown
>
>>>>> Parking
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>>> No appology required (after all, I'm not the
one
> >>>>> being crudely refered to)
>
>>>>>> but, does this mean that any vulgar or
>
>>>>> sexual remark is fair game when
>
>>>>>> discussing public figures? I don't
>
>>>>> think I am personally willing to go down
>
>>>>>> that path but it would be
>
>>>>> nice to know what the current ground rules are.
Is
> >>>>>> it now going to be
>
>>>>> cool to make ribald, boardering on obscene
suggestions
> >>>>>> about Michele
>
>>>>> Obama? Can we now go crazy when remarking on Hillary's
looks
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>
sexuality? Can we drop it on down to the local level and smear
>
>>> Mayor
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>> Chaney with remarks simalar to those made by late night
TV hacks?
> >>>>> Please
>
>>>>>
> >>>>>> fill me in with regard
to where the boundries are going to be
> >>>>>> set
or
> >>>>> if
> >>>>>> there will
be any at all. It pains me to be behind the curve.
>
>>>>> Speaking of
> >>>>>>
which:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
Emailing:
> >>>>>
6a00d8341c4df253ef011570f27fe3970c-800wi
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>>> g
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>
>>>>>> From: <bear at moscow.com>
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>> To: "Tom Hansen"
<thansen at moscow.com>
> >>>>>> Cc: "Moscow Vision
2020"
> >>>>> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:50
>
>>>>> PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Is Our City Council 'Pulling a Palin'
>
>>>>>> on
> >>>>> Downtown
>
>>>>>> Parking
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>> GARY:
> >>>>> I'll apologize
up front, this IS a cheep shot but I just can't
>
>>>>>>>
> >>>>> resist!
>
>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>> Would this be considered
>
>>>>> "Governorus Interruptus" by the only Palin with
>
>>>>>>> the sense to pull
> >>>>>
out early? *S*
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>> ---
> >>>>> ---
>
>>>>> ---
> >>>>> ---
>
>>>>> ---
> >>>>> ---
>
>>>>> ---
> >>>>> ---
>
>>>>> ---
> >>>>> ---
>
>>>>> ---
> >>>>> ---
>
>>>>> ---
> >>>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Urban
Dictionary has adopted a new phrase for its dictionary
>
>>>>> (with
> >>>>>>>> four
definitions):
> >>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> "Puling a
Palin"
> >>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>> Courtesy of the Urban
>
>>>>> Dictionary at:
>
>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pulling+a+palin
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
---------------------------------------------
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>>>> 1. Pulling a Palin
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The
Republican
> >>>>> art of disguising your inept knowledge
by answering a
> >>>>>>>>
>
>>>>> question with another question as in "with what respect
Charlie?"
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Charlie
asks "do you agree with the Bush
> >>>>>
Doctrine?"
> >>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>> Sarah responds "in what respect
>
>>>>> Charlie?" "do you mean his world view"
>
>>>>>>>> staring with blank
>
>>>>> ignorance at Charlie.
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
Sarah was just caught
> >>>>> Pulling a Palin!
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
---------
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2.
Pulling a Palin
> >>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> Telling a large
and obvious lie for personal gain.
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>>>> Even though I have a herpes sore on my lip, I'm
pulling a Palin
> >>>>> and
>
>>>>>>>> telling her I'm a virgin.
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>>>> ---------
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 3.
Pulling a
> >>>>> Palin
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
Rambling non-stop unrelated
> >>>>> information to try to
hide the fact that you
> >>>>>>>> have no
clue
> >>>>> about what someone just asked you.
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
COURIC:
> >>>>> Why isn't it better, Governor Palin, to
spend $700 billion
> >>>>>>>>
>
>>>>> helping
> >>>>>>>>
middle-class families struggling with health care,
>
>>>>> housing, gas and
> >>>>>>>>
groceries? Allow them to spend more and put
> >>>>> more
money into the economy?
> >>>>>>>> Instead of
helping these big
> >>>>> financial institutions that
played a role in
> >>>>>>>> creating
this
> >>>>> mess?
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
PALIN: That's why I say, I like...
> >>>>> ever American
I'm speaking with were
> >>>>>>>> ill about this
position
> >>>>> that we have been put in where it is the
tax
> >>>>>>>> payers looking
>
>>>>> to bailout.
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But
ultimately, what the bailout
> >>>>> does... is...
help... those... who are
> >>>>>>>> concerned
about the
> >>>>> health care reform that is needed to
help shore up
> >>>>>>>>
>
>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> economy ...
Helping the ... Oh, it's got to be about job
> >>>>>
creation too.
> >>>>>>>> Shoring up our economy
and putting it back on
> >>>>> the right track. So
health
> >>>>>>>> care reform... and
reducing
> >>>>> taxes... and reining in spending has got
to
> >>>>>>>> accompany tax
>
>>>>> reductions... and tax relief for Americas... And
trade...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
we've got to see trade... mmm... as opportunity... mmm... not
>
>>>>> as a
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>>>> competitive scary thing. But 1 in 5 jobs being
created in the
> >>> trade
> >>>>>
>
>>>>>>>> sector
>
>>>>>>>> today. We've got to look at that as
>
>>>>> more opportunity... All those things
>
>>>>>>>> under the umbrella of
>
>>>>> job creation. This bailout is a part of that.
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>>>> COURIC: Are you pulling a Palin?
>
>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> PALIN:
Yes.
> >>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>> ---------
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>> 4. Pulling a Palin 10 up, 2 down
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>> Pulling a Palin is the act of being chosen
for the
> >>>>> Republican party Vice
>
>>>>>>>> President while knowing that your 17
>
>>>>> year old daughter is pregnant. This
>
>>>>>>>> adds a lot of controversy
>
>>>>> to the election as the family values and
>
>>>>>>>> truthiness of Palin
>
>>>>> are scrutinized.
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Nick
is Pulling a Palin by
> >>>>> entering that marathon with
his heart
> >>>>>>>> condition.
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
---------------------------------------------
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>>>> In light of . . .
>
>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
http://www.moscowcares.com/070609_06_DowntownParking.htm
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>> We must now ask ourselves seriously,
Visionaires . .
> >>>>> .
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is
our City Council pulling a
> >>>>> Palin?
>
>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tom
Hansen
> >>>>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>
>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind,
the
> >>>>> Optimist expects it to
>
>>>>>>>> change
>
>>>>>>>> and the
> >>>>> Realist
adjusts his sails."
> >>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>
Unknown
> >>>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>
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