[Vision2020] NYTimes: In Search of Dignity
g. crabtree
jampot at roadrunner.com
Thu Jul 9 07:21:11 PDT 2009
This response is nonsensical. What is the "This" that I gave as a reason that would cause you to assume that I believe that Obama hatred was the only way?
On a few policy's I agree with the President. Not closing Gitmo and following Bush's lead and initiating a "surge" in Afghanistan come immediately to mind.
Is Brooks in error on every conservative principal? Of course not, but when the huffington post, air america, and the nyt hold up Brooks as their ideal for what a conservative ought to be I have a natural (and visceral) tendency to disagree.
g
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From: Joe Campbell
To: g. crabtree
Cc: the lockshop ; Vision 2020
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:54 AM
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This is the only reason you gave! That is not a leap of logic! I'm just trying to follow YOUR reasoning. If you have other reasons, say what they are.
But that you can't accept the opinions of moderate members of your own party is telling, IMO.
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On Jul 9, 2009, at 6:49 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
David Brooks, on BHO, in his own words:
From an interview with The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg
"... I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews would say."
So, the fact that I don't find David Brooks as conservative as I might prefer, it follows that the litmus test for true conservatism must be hatred of the president? Another leap of logic that, as you never tire of reminding us, only a professional master of the subject could make.
g
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Campbell
To: g. crabtree
Cc: the lockshop ; Vision 2020
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: In Search of Dignity
Brooks thinks that Obama is a model of dignity. He's not in awe of Obama he just thinks he has dignity. So that makes him NOT a conservative!?!? It seems to follow that you have to hate Obama to be a true conservative. That is extreme, too extreme to appeal to the majority of voters.
I might have stated the obvious but somehow you still don't get it!
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On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:16 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
Oh yes, I read the article. I would have thought that almost anyone who has followed Mr. Brooks' career would be well aware of why I might have used the descriptives that I did. Sorry if you're new to the subject.
Regarding the most recent elective outcomes, thank you so very much for your emphatic statement of the all too obvious. You have finally found an area at which you might truly excel! Since Brooks seems to stand in awe of your deity of the moment, it really seems inappropriate to refer to him as conservative, moderate or otherwise and it wouldn't seem to matter much to me whether he's offended or not. As a BHO supplicant, he's part of the problem and none of the solution.
g
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Campbell
To: the lockshop
Cc: Vision 2020
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NYTimes: In Search of Dignity
Did you read the Huffington Post article, Crabtree? It was pretty funny but I don't see any mention of Brooks being a "liberal lapdog" or having "quasi-conservative credentials." Where did you get that from? Maybe he's not offensive or narrow-minded enough to fit your definition!
But guess what? Repubican's LOST the last election for the White House and Democrats now have a super-majority in congress. So you might consider not offending the few moderate conservatives who haven't jumped the sinking ship. Or perhaps not! Palin in 2012!
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On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:42 PM, "the lockshop" <lockshop at pull.twcbc.com> wrote:
On becoming a liberal lap dog with quasi-conservative credentials. From the huffington post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-hanft/become-david-brooks-in-an_b_227346.html
g
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Campbell
To: Vision 2020
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] NYTimes: In Search of Dignity
From The New York Times:
OP-ED COLUMNIST: In Search of Dignity
By DAVID BROOKS
The old dignity code that George Washington once followed has not survived modern life. Every week there are new scandals featuring people who simply do not know how to act....
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/07/opinion/07brooks.html
Get The New York Times on your iPhone for free by visiting http://nytimes.com/iphoneinstaller
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