[Vision2020] He's Baaaaaaack . . .

Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 18 16:09:25 PST 2009


I think Gary's right.  He gets dumped on for all of Christ Church's 
animosity on this forum, and for all I know he isn't even a member.  He 
may just hold similar opinions to some of the more vocal Christ Church 
member's opinions.

He doesn't seem the type to censure himself on someone else's behalf, 
and I'd expect that even if he is a member of the church that he would 
not hesitate to voice his opinion if it differed from that of the elders.

Paul

g. crabtree wrote:
> I'm confused. Why come to this forum to ask me questions you don't really 
> want answers to and express concern for matters that are decidedly not up 
> for your consideration and then come back from a new location and paraphrase 
> yourself  two hours latter? Did you feel it was so important and unique it 
> required two posts to capture its poignancy?
>
> For the record, with regard to the matter at hand, I feel zero shame and 
> take (from any quarter that matters) absolutely no heat, and my "name and 
> family security" are in no danger what so ever.
>
> What I'd like to know is how come, amongst a certain element on this list, 
> what an individual does or says is synonymous with their church's ministers 
> position? Should I hold the minister of the Unitarian church responsible for 
> the contrary opinions of Peggy Jenkins or Prof. Gier? Should I hold atheists 
> in general responsible for the remarks with which I disagree as made by 
> Chasuk, Deco, Moffatt, et. al? Blame neo-pagans in general for the wayward 
> comments of Deb Smith?
>
>
> g
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph Campbell" <josephc at wsu.edu>
> To: <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] He's Baaaaaaack . . .
>
>
>   
>> Crabtree spends his time supporting Christ Church sources: No
>> Weatherman, the Bigot guy, etc. He is a shill and nothing more.
>>
>> Gary, I can't understand why you are their spokesperson, why you let
>> them shame you, why you are willing to take the heat when they are
>> not? None of them are willing to stand by these views -- the bigoted
>> views of No Weatherman, for instance. Why are you willing? Why do you
>> put ypur name beside this crap while they do not?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2009, at 6:36 PM, "Robert Dickow" <dickow at uidaho.edu> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> The NoSuperWalmart site had nothing whatsoever to do with the UofI
>>> at any
>>> time. Why did this connection ever get made? It was the home site
>>> for a
>>> grass-roots community-concerns political organizing effort. Once the
>>> battle
>>> was won against the location chosen for the proposed SuperWalmart
>>> development, the site became more of a positive 'Yes to Moscow'
>>> theme. The
>>> URL is http://www.nosuperwalmart.com.
>>>
>>> Bob Dickow, troublemaker
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>>> ]
>>> On Behalf Of Joseph Campbell
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:03 PM
>>> To: Paul Rumelhart; g. crabtree
>>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] He's Baaaaaaack . . .
>>>
>>> Get a clue. Check the source.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/17/09 5:59 PM, "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I've never seen the nosuperwalmart site.  What are the facts?  Was
>>>> it an
>>>> official UI webpage?  Was it the personal page of a UI employee?
>>>> In the
>>>> first case, they have a case.  In the second, the UI is acting more
>>>> as
>>>> an ISP hosting personal content.  I don't know the law there, but I
>>>> doubt it's as cut-and-dried.
>>>>
>>>> What was the URL to the page?
>>>>
>>>> Paul <snip>
>>>>         
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