[Vision2020] Papal Forgiveness

[Kai Eiselein, Editor]

Well put, Joe.
As a parochial school survivor (Sacred Heart School, Nogales, AZ.) I can attest that communion was of the utmost seriousness.
The nuns may have scared the living bejeebers out of us with tales of Purgatory and how we would stay there until "all of the blacks spots of sin" were burned away for any number of transgressions.
But desecration of the host, well that would get you the one-way express train ticket to hell, according to the Sisters; no Purgatory, no chance for salvation, nada, zip, game over.


From: Campbell, Joseph 
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:58 PM
To: keely emerinemix ; Charles Warren ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Papal Forgiveness


Dear Keely,

 

Desecration of Communion is desecration of God, according to these Catholics. Again, I don't believe this and you don't but the question is whether it is inappropriate for someone to think that desecration of God is the worst kind of sin. I don't think it is in appropriate. There is really nothing new here, nothing different from Chas's first set of remarks. He finds the thought of genuine Communion to be absurd. Well, good for him. He is not alone. Donovan finds Chas's atheism to be absurd, too, and I don't appreciate Donovan's insulting remarks about Chas's beliefs any more than I do Chas's insulting remarks about Catholics. I'm neither a Catholic or an atheist but I have friends and family in both camps and it bothers me that their beliefs are discussed in such a flippant, insulting way.

 

I find the whole idea of taking bits and pieces of someone's fundamental beliefs out of context and making fun of them to be a worthless exercise. It is offensive and as far as I can tell of no good whatsoever. Why stop with Catholics? Why not find comments from other religions - Mormons, Muslims, Jews - that we can take out of context and make fun of? And what do we gain from this exercise? I just don't get it.

 

Any fundamental claim about the world - religious, philosophical, or whatever - looks odd to those who don't accept. That is just the way that fundamental claims work. Going to the trouble to point out the oddness serves no useful end, as far as I can see. Ultimately it leaves us all open to the same kind of pointless ridicule.

 

Best, Joe

 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of keely emerinemix
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:12 PM
To: Charles Warren; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Papal Forgiveness

 

I think I'm with Chas on this one.  A little perspective, please!

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/




> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:38:42 -0800
> From: chasuk at gmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Papal Forgiveness
> 
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28663430/
> 
> This just in:
> 
> "Confessions of . . . sins . . . such as genocide or mass murder . . .
> [are] handled at the local level by priests and their bishops"
> 
> However for the REALLY heinous sins, only the pope can grant absolution.
> 
> Which sins are this grave, you wonder?
> 
> Well, for example, only the pope can absolve those "who receive
> Communion and then remove the host from their mouths and spit it out
> or otherwise desecrate it," this article reports.
> 
> So spitting out a wafer is worse than genocide?
> 
> *Chas's head explodes*
> 
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