[Vision2020] plowing

[Sue Hovey]

Well at least you have a chance.  He told me a couple of emails ago that I didn't have any problems.  Reminds me of the Junior High lit book, The Giver.

Sue 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: keely emerinemix 
  To: Sue Hovey ; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com ; Bev Bafus ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:32 AM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] plowing


  I shudder to think that, if I were ever under Donovan's care, he might not judge me and my problems sufficient for his compassion.  On the other hand, it appears that the only suffering human beings around us are all in his care, which makes me think he must be very tired, indeed.  Perhaps that contributes to his sniping.

  Keely
  http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/





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  From: suehovey at moscow.com
  To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; bevbafus at verizon.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
  Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:24:51 -1000
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] plowing


  And My God, we are fortunate to have someone in the community who can fit all its citizens into the appropriate categories--either deserving or whiners according to your determination.  I would submit that you are neither all-wise nor all-knowing, but you appear to believe you are sufficient unto the task.

  Best regards, my eye,

  Sue H. 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Donovan Arnold 
    To: Bev Bafus ; vision2020 at moscow.com ; Sue Hovey 
    Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:48 PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] plowing


          Sue,

          You are correct. I am insensitive to the needs of the lazy able bodied who "think" they have problems because of some snow on a sidewalk. 

          I deal with people with real problems. I work with people on chemo therapy, dialysis, and other life threatening illnesses. I deal with parents with children with cases of Autism. I work with people that are missing arms, legs, and are in advanced stages of Alzheimer's or dementia. I work for people that have only $80-$41 a month after medical costs are paid. I deal with families losing their children, mothers, brothers, sisters, and spouses of 60+ years. I deal with a man who was stationed in Hiroshima at the end of WWII. I work with Veterans that cannot get proper medical care for their war injuries. 

          You don't have problems, I don't have problems, people fighting for removal of every snow flake don't have real problems, You bet I am insensitive to the whiners and complainers that don't have a CLUE as to what pain, suffering, inconvenience and loss really is. They have everything handed to them, and want future generations to pay for their luxury and squandering without a bit of understanding of what sacrifice is about. 

          I watched Latah County kick out everyone of its elderly people in their care by closing down its only long term facility. I saw no compassion from the county, just greedy people wanting the building and how they could make money off of it. I didn't even see anyone mention the funerals of those that died shortly after their forced move. 

          You are right, I have no compassion for the lazy able bodied that want to waste taxpayers money while ignoring the needs of the truly disabled and those with real problems and challenges.

          If you took all the whiners and complainers about the snow, gave them a shovel, they could solve their problem without the government or taxpayer monies. But they cannot, because they need the government to do anything and everything for them. 

          Best Regards,

          Donovan



          --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:

            From: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
            Subject: Re: [Vision2020] plowing
            To: "Bev Bafus" <bevbafus at verizon.net>, vision2020 at moscow.com
            Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:53 PM


Bev and others,Personally I think too many people share Donovan's opinion (from an earlierpost:)  if you don't like the snow, just move south.  Contrary to what he feels, it is insensitive.  To personalize a bit:  we have spent most of our adult lives in Moscow.  We raised 3 chidren here.  We worked to make Moscow a better place for ourselves, our children, and others who love it despite it's winter weather.  And now that we are retired we do leave in thewinter. But, to be honest, we know that isn't a very good  solution--most people--the folks who live and work in Moscow, the elderly, the disabled, and others who just like the cold, deserve conditions that are safe for walking and travel.  Before we left Norm did shovel our walks and driveway, only to have them plowed in with ice chunks he couldn't move.  There were two days when we couldn't get out of our driveway even with 4 wheel drive because the berm that the snowplow left was simply immovable.So, Bev, you make a valuable point.  The city needs to take care not to make things worse when clearing roads, and residents and business people need to take care of their walks so everyone feels safe using them.To say to Moscow residents, "If you don't like it, leave," simplyallows one to wash his hands of the problems instead of working toward solutions.>From one who admits she's glad to be out of the snow.  (and in  aDemocratic state--what a bonus.)Sue H.----- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Bafus" <bevbafus at verizon.net>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:08 AMSubject: [Vision2020] plowing> Maybe I'm just obtuse, but I fail to see how taking the time to plowthe> snow BACK onto the main streets helps anything, except make tempers rise.>> Why not use the plow time to clear lanes that are still blocked?>> =======================================================> List services made available by First Step Internet,> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.>               http://www.fsr.net>          mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================> ======================================================= List services made available by First Step Internet,  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.                  http://www.fsr.net                                 mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com======================================================= 




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