[Vision2020] plowing

Sun Jan 11 11:32:51 PST 2009

I shudder to think that, if I were ever under Donovan's care, he might not judge me and my problems sufficient for his compassion.  On the other hand, it appears that the only suffering human beings around us are all in his care, which makes me think he must be very tired, indeed.  Perhaps that contributes to his sniping.

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/

From: suehovey at moscow.com
To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; bevbafus at verizon.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:24:51 -1000
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] plowing

And My God, we are fortunate to have someone in the 
community who can fit all its citizens into the appropriate categories--either 
deserving or whiners according to your determination.  I would submit that 
you are neither all-wise nor all-knowing, but you appear to believe you are 
sufficient unto the task.

Best regards, my eye,

Sue H. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Donovan Arnold 
  To: Bev Bafus ; vision2020 at moscow.com ; Sue Hovey 

  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:48 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] plowing

        Sue,

        You are correct. I am insensitive to the needs of the lazy able 
        bodied who "think" they have problems because of some snow on a 
        sidewalk. 

        I deal with people with real problems. I work with people on 
        chemo therapy, dialysis, and other life threatening illnesses. I deal 
        with parents with children with cases of Autism. I work with people 
        that are missing arms, legs, and are in advanced stages of 
        Alzheimer's or dementia. I work for people 
        that have only $80-$41 a month after medical costs are paid. I 
        deal with families losing their children, mothers, brothers, sisters, 
        and spouses of 60+ years. I deal with a man who was stationed in 
        Hiroshima at the end of WWII. I work with Veterans that cannot get 
        proper medical care for their war injuries. 

        You don't have problems, I don't have problems, people fighting for 
        removal of every snow flake don't have real problems, You bet I am 
        insensitive to the whiners and complainers that don't have a CLUE as to 
        what pain, suffering, inconvenience and loss really is. They have 
        everything handed to them, and want future generations to pay for their 
        luxury and squandering without a bit of understanding of 
        what sacrifice is about. 

        I watched Latah County kick out everyone of its elderly people in 
        their care by closing down its only long term facility. I saw no 
        compassion from the county, just greedy people wanting the building and 
        how they could make money off of it. I didn't even see anyone mention 
        the funerals of those that died shortly after their forced move. 

        You are right, I have no compassion for the lazy able bodied that 
        want to waste taxpayers money while ignoring the needs of the truly 
        disabled and those with real problems and challenges.

        If you took all the whiners and complainers about the snow, gave 
        them a shovel, they could solve their problem without the government or 
        taxpayer monies. But they cannot, because they need the government to do 
        anything and everything for them. 

        Best Regards,

        Donovan

--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Sue Hovey 
        <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:

        From: 
          Sue Hovey 
          <suehovey at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 
          plowing
To: "Bev Bafus" <bevbafus at verizon.net>, 
          vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:53 
          PM

Bev and others,

Personally I think too many people share Donovan's opinion (from an earlier

post:)  if you don't like the snow, just move south.  Contrary to what he 
feels, it is insensitive.  To personalize a bit:  we have spent most of our 
adult lives in Moscow.  We raised 3 chidren here.  We worked to make Moscow 
a better place for ourselves, our children, and others who love it despite 
it's winter weather.  And now that we are retired we do leave in the
winter. 
But, to be honest, we know that isn't a very good  solution--most 
people--the folks who live and work in Moscow, the elderly, the disabled, 
and others who just like the cold, deserve conditions that are safe for 
walking and travel.  Before we left Norm did shovel our walks and driveway, 
only to have them plowed in with ice chunks he couldn't move.  There were 
two days when we couldn't get out of our driveway even with 4 wheel drive 
because the berm that the snowplow left was simply immovable.

So, Bev, you make a valuable point.  The city needs to take care not to make 
things worse when clearing roads, and residents and business people need to 
take care of their walks so everyone feels safe using them.

To say to Moscow residents, "If you don't like it, leave," simply
allows one 
to wash his hands of the problems instead of working toward solutions.

>From one who admits she's glad to be out of the snow.  (and in  a
Democratic 
state--what a bonus.)

Sue H.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bev Bafus" <bevbafus at verizon.net>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:08 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] plowing

> Maybe I'm just obtuse, but I fail to see how taking the time to plow
the
> snow BACK onto the main streets helps anything, except make tempers rise.
>
> Why not use the plow time to clear lanes that are still blocked?
>
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