[Vision2020] Snow problems

Sat Jan 10 13:58:24 PST 2009

Then why are these people walking on the roadway?

http://www.moscowcares.com/011009/011009_95S_01.jpg

And these people, too?

http://www.moscowcares.com/011009/011009_95S_04.jpg

Still look good to you, Arnie?

There were several other instances where pedestrians were forced to share 
the roadway.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

> Looks good to me. Thanks to all the Highway people for clearing the
area.>  
>  
> Best Regards,
>  
> Donovan
> 
> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow problems
> To: sslund_2007 at verizon.net, bevbafus at verizon.net,
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo> ..com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 12:48 PM
> 
> Ladies and Gentlemen, of the Viz -
> 
> Your attention is invited to:
> 
> http://www.MoscowCares.com/011009
> 
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> > Donovan's attitude is symptomatic of the problem.  Other places manage
> to
> > appropriately handle the situation, so I honestly don't know
> what's wrong
> > with people here that we can't.  There are still FAR TOO MANY
> SIDEWALKS 
> that
> > are covered in compact ice that hasn't melted.  This is DAYS after the
> 
> last
> > snow.  Bev, I agree with you about the problem areas you specified, but
> > there are other areas just as problematic forcing pedestrians to take 
> their
> > lives into their hands either by walking in already too narrow streets 
or
> > trying to negotiate icy sidewalks.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Yesterday I saw an older gentleman carrying what looked like grocery 
bags
> > trying to maintain his footing on icy sidewalks in the A Street area - 
he
> > caught my eye so then I looked at the sidewalks he was heading towards 
> and
> > saw that stretches were just plain treacherous.  Kids were out playing 
in
> > that specific neighborhood so people are in town, yet many of the 
> sidewalks
> > were in deplorably icy conditions.  I saw the same thing in other
parts>  
> of
> > town, including the central business district Thursday night.  Many,
if>  
> not
> > most, sidewalks downtown and in residential districts have been
> > appropriately shoveled throughout the tough conditions, which makes it 
> all
> > the more obvious that some people just don't give a rip.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > And, to the 20-something dude with his friends helping him carry his 
> brand
> > new big screen TV into the house while the sidewalk in front of his 
house
> > has consistently been one of the worst I've seen, SHAME ON YOU!!!
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Saundra Lund
> > 
> > Moscow, ID
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to 
do
> > nothing.
> > 
> > ~ Edmund Burke
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2008 through
life>  
> plus
> > 70 years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce 
> outside
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> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-
> bounces at moscow.com]
> > On Behalf Of Bev Bafus
> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:54 AM
> > To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow problems
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Donovan, I'm not talking about just any sidewalk, or snow in general. 
> 
> I'm
> > talking about two specific areas that are an extreme danger zone.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > There is no public transit in these areas.  There are people who have 
to
> > walk.  They have boots.  They are walking, sometimes in a foot of 
slush.
> > But why should they have to walk in the same lane as speeding chip 
trucks
> > because adjacent landowners are too lazy to clean their sidewalks?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > One of these landowners IS the City of Moscow.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Bev
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:57 PM
> > To: blambert at ci.moscow.id.us; dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us;
> > jweber at moscow.com; tlamar at moscow.com; wmsteed at aol.com;
> > wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us; nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us; Bev Bafus
> > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Snow problems
> > 
> > 
> > I don't mean to sound insensitive; 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > But this is Idaho. It snows. It snows a lot. If snow is such a burden 
for
> > people that they feel a need to sue people over not being available
24/7>  
> to
> > remove it from every inch of city property that within 50 ft of them, 
> they
> > should consider a move South. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > People, it snows, don't like it, complain to God. If someone, or a 
> business
> > is being really neglectful in snow and ice removal, ask them nicely to 
> fix
> > it, if they don't, write a letter to the editor to complain. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Except for disabled parking in government and private businesses, 
people
> > should just realize it snows, and if you are unsure footed like me,
you>  
> are
> > probably going to fall. It is just the way it is, please stop with 
> endless
> > complaining about snow in Idaho in the winter, it is just a fact of 
life,
> > love your neighbor, it isn't his/her fault, and let us move on. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Go buy a pair of boots with good traction, or stay home. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Donovan
> > 
> > --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Bev Bafus <bevbafus at verizon.net> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Bev Bafus <bevbafus at verizon.net>
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Snow problems
> > To: blambert at ci.moscow.id.us, dcarscallen at ci.moscow.id.us,
> > jweber at moscow.com, tlamar at moscow.com, wmsteed at aol.com,
> > wkrauss at ci.moscow.id.us, nchaney at ci.moscow.id.us
> > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 12:49 PM
> > 
> > Now that we have a break in the weather, would it be possible for
there>  
> to
> > be some sort of effort to clean the sidewalks lining Highway 95 north 
of
> > Rosauer's and south of A & W?  People are still walking in the
> highway.
> >  
> > There is also snow blocking parts or all of lanes in this area.
> >  
> > Combine the blocked lanes with lack of sidewalks, people walking in the
> > highway and heavy truck traffic, and you have a recipe for a major 
> disaster.
> >  
> > Thank you,
> > Bev Bafus
> >  
> >
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