[Vision2020] Fragments of our Lord

[Donovan Arnold]

Chas,
 
Most all Christians believe false Gods exist. But there is only one True God. 
 
I have little faith in God because I am a weak person. But I do believe that He exists. I have to pray for faith that He will do right by me. I resist Him all the time because I want to be free to do what I want for me, not what is right for Him. 
 
Believing He exists is indisputable because of what I have witnessed and witnessed with others. So that is the easier part for me. I don't think I am special, I think God reveals himself to everyone at some point if He needs to. 
 
But faith, that is difficult to acquire, even people that boast they have much more than most, have little. 
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan
 
 
 


--- On Thu, 1/1/09, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fragments of our Lord
To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Cc: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 12:44 AM

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 23:24, Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am very certain that there are Gods out to harm others.

You are operating from a polytheistic perspective?  Interesting and
surprising, both.

> First, there is a different standard for God than a unicorn because the
> unicorn is a physical thing, and it is either witnessed by physical
evidence
> that cannot be denied, or there is a lack of physical evidence. God is not
a
> physical entity other than He is all that is physical and not physical, he
> is everything. The only way to have proof of God's existence is to
witness
> something He does that is evidence to you.

Analogies are often imperfect, as this one proves to be for you.  As
it happens, I agree with you that the "proof of God's existence is to
witness something He does that is evidence to you."  When I was a
Christian, I accepted God's existence through divine revelation.  My
God was the "still small voice" that spoke to Elijah.

> Second, it is not logical to believe there is no God when you have no
> evidence that there is no God. It would only be logical to be either
> agnostic, unknowing if there is a God, or believing that you have seen or
> witnessed the existence of God.

Agreed.

I became a non-theist because 1) I saw no evidence of His existence,
and 2) I stopped trusting revelation.  There were other reasons, but
those are the crux.

Faith was pleasant.  Part of me wishes I still had it.

Chas

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