[Vision2020] Humane interrogations work

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Tue Feb 24 12:15:34 PST 2009


Chas
Your last two paragraphs are valid, the rest is nonsense.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Chasuk chasuk at gmail.com
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:01:29 -0800
To: "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Humane interrogations work

> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 19:09, g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> 
> > I believe that the enemy we are at war with does in fact hate our freedoms and values and resents its own lack stature in the world, particularly in light of what it sees as its former glory.
> 
> I'm sorry, Gary, I consider you a smart guy, but that seems to me both
> egocentric and naïve, sort of along the lines of Freud's belief that
> women unconsciously envied penises.
> 
> > The inescapable conclusion a rational person will come to is that militant Islam and
> > wahabaism are the common denominator and I firmly believe that you can offer
> > up all the maudlin mea culpas and a truck load of tearful apologies and it won't
> > reduce the terrorism one little bit.
> 
> Yes, militant Islam and wahabism are often the common denominator,
> because we have fired them in the same crucible.  When I say "we," I
> am not blaming the US, at least not exclusively.  But we are the
> 800-pound gorilla, so we attract a lot of attention, in the same way
> that Wal-Mart, Disney, and Microsoft attract attention.
> 
> Christianity has a history at least as bloody and violent as Islam,
> but Christianity is nearly seven centuries older, so it has had the
> opportunity to evolve and mature.  Further, Islam was pummeled by the
> Crusades, which lasted from the 11th century until the end of the
> 17th, courtesy of Christianity.  As the US identifies itself as the
> most Christian nation on earth, why are we surprised when they believe
> us?
> 
> Most Muslims are as peaceable as most Christians, which is pretty
> amazing, all things considered.  Anne Coulter sure hasn't helped
> matters, with her comment, "We should invade their countries, kill
> their leaders and convert them to Christianity."
> 
> Chas
> 
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