[Vision2020] Sen Schroeder

[Tom Hansen]

Garrett -

Don't forget about Wal-Mart's intention of building a supercenter in 
Pullman.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

> Donovan,
> 
> Do you really think there is plenty of locally produced food and water 
here, but not
plenty of retail shopping, selling primarily foreign goods? I come to the 
opposite
conclusion.
> 
> It doesn't seem as productive or sustainable putting more faith on 
service or retail jobs
than on value added ones, such as farming, seemingly a better use of 
resources. The reason
water isn't used to irrigate farm land around here is because water is 
perceived to be
limited.
> 
> There are other ways to create jobs in our region than building a credit 
dependent
megamall, the essence of which has now been exposed as highly dependent on 
government
subsidies.
> 
> I'm not sure why you think Hawkins will be more user friendly than the 
PEM, probably
because I'm too cynical and see this predatory development has hawk in its 
name for a
reason...
> 
> gc
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020]  Sen Schroeder
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com, garrettmc at verizon.net
> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 10:26 PM
> > Garrett,
> > 
> > There is plenty of water and food here in Idaho. Idahoans
> > need jobs. There are no jobs in Moscow. The Mall will only
> > compete with the Palouse Empire Mall, which long ago
> > abandoned the interests of local shop owners, business
> > investors, and shoppers. 
> > 
> > Moscow residents are banned from having stores in the PEM.
> > The PEM wants nothing to do with Moscow residents other than
> > to take our money to Spokane. The Hawkins Mall will have
> > local businesses from Moscow. It will employ Moscow
> > residents. Who will turn pay taxes in Idaho and on property
> > owned in Idaho. Idaho shoppers will get products here,
> > rather than Spokane or Lewiston. 
> > 
> > Sure, the property tax on the Mall will go to Whitman. But
> > that is small compared to what we will get in return, jobs
> > and industry. 
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > 
> > Donovan
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Garrett Clevenger
> > <garrettmc at verizon.net> wrote:
> > From: Garrett Clevenger <garrettmc at verizon.net>
> > Subject: [Vision2020]  Sen Schroeder
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 7:51 PM
> > 
> > As a farmer, it saddens me to know some think it's
> > acceptable to use water
> > and farmland to build an unneeded $100 million mega-mall,
> > one designed to
> > compete with Moscow. Thinking we'll be wasting water on
> > the very symbol of
> > why America is losing power, instead of using it to grow
> > food, makes me
> > understand why we just let the 21st century robber barons
> > swindle our coffers
> > with the the greatest and most costly scam ever.
> > 
> > You may think it's ok to let these same people profit
> > from a crucial
> > natural resource, but that does nothing to ensure water,
> > and food, are
> > affordable, safe, and readily accessible to us.
> > 
> > Perhaps in 2020 people will love Hawkins, but I have my
> > suspicion economies are
> > going to be radically changed, and priorities about what is
> > important will lean
> > more toward appreciation of conservation. Limiting use of
> > water for commercial
> > develop, to insure cheap water is available for everyone
> > else, seems like wise
> > planning to me...
> > 
> > Garrett Clevenger
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Donovan Arnold writes Sun Feb 15 20:58:12 PST 2009:
> > 
> > 
> > You know, you people that think we should cut off the
> > spigot to our neighbors
> > and to other states that we depend upon for other reasons,
> > does nothing, because
> > the Federal Courts will not allow the State of Idaho deny
> > other states in the
> > Union water unless we can prove we would die if we shared
> > it, or we are not
> > being paid a fair price. 
> >  
> > You also know that Native Americans still own a lot of the
> > water you are
> > drinking in Idaho, and if Idaho can shut down
> > Washington's water supply,
> > Natives can certainly shut down yours too. So be careful
> > what powers you wish
> > local governments to have. 
> >  
> > Everyone has a right to water if it is available. When we
> > make water less
> > affordable, it is really the farmers and the poor, who are
> > mostly children,
> > elderly, and disabled, that suffer, not the asshole
> > politicians that play games
> > with natural resources. You didn't do anything to bring
> > or produce the water
> > in Idaho. So don't be telling others they are not
> > entitled to have water. 
> >  
> > Best Regards,
> >  
> > Donovan
> > 
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