[Vision2020] And Now for Something a Little Different

deb debismith at moscow.com
Mon Feb 16 20:13:37 PST 2009


Oh, for Pete's sake! This forum has gotten so self righteous and up-in-arms, one can't even make a joking reference to "urban legend" without having to provide nine thousand proofs! ROTFL!!!! Stop, Stop, it's making my ribs hurt!!!! It's like watching a zombie movie--too stupid to watch, too amazingly ridiculous to ignore!!

Surely, folks who have been in Moscow a while have "heard about someone who knew someone who saw the undergound passage between the building (X) and the building (y) undergound in downtown Moscow before they got covered up"? I've only been here about 25 years, and have heard this urban myth....

As for the "underground newspapers", what were all these old hippies (this poster being one) who came to Moscow to finish their lives doing in the sixties? There were "underground newspapers" everywhere. Granted, most had a run of two copies before the mimeo machine fumes put them out for the count, but they must have been in MOSCOW? They were in PULLMAN....the last bastion of the Ole Hippy cannot go undefended!!! (That's a joke, Son. Don't sue me)

Y'all need to get over yourselves, get less defensive, and grow a sense of humour. No wonder this forum has deteriorated to five people closing their eyes while slapping each other silly...you look like a Monty Python skit!!! The Department of Ridiculous Defense Postures...."OOOOH, OOOH, Prove it!!!" Maybe it's just the long cold winter that's got y'all in a lather? Get some full spectrum lights, some better antidepressants, or a life for Ghod's sake, and stop being so flipping grumpy!! 

By the way, Joan Opyr's newest book is out---some conflation of characters there look a lot like some Moscovites...From Hell to Breakfast is a very funny read! and I think some of you could use a really good laugh......................trust me, you WILL feel better. 
Debi R-S

PS: if there is an iota of sunshine, I suggest y'all go stand in it as long as it lasts....stimulate that seratonin, you dour Moscovites!!  Laugh! Get some fresh air into those stifled and sour nasal passages!! Cowboy Up, Kids!! Winter is a ending, though not soon enough to keep you all from another smack-down, i'm sure.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bev Bafus 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And Now for Something a Little Different


  I don't know what the original poster had in mind, but at least one of the creeks in Moscow goes underground somewhere near the junior high, and comes out near Lilly Street.  This is a very large culvert.  During dry season, could be considered a tunnel?

  Bev
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    From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of the lockshop
    Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:37 PM
    To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; Ted Moffett; deb; g. crabtree
    Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And Now for Something a Little Different


    I'm well aware of the U of I's heat tunnels. It was great fun to go exploring in them when I was a youth. My question was directed to the assertion of downtown tunnels. The closest the university system comes to downtown is a couple dozen feet east of elm between sixth and Idaho ave. Over the years I've been in the basements of most all of the older downtown structures and I've seen no indication of tunnels. I'm not saying they don't (or didn't) exist, I'm just asking for additional information.

    g
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Donovan Arnold 
      To: Ted Moffett ; deb ; g. crabtree 
      Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
      Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 12:36 PM
      Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And Now for Something a Little Different


            I know UI has underground tunnels underneath it. I don't know about downtown though. But what would be the point, I mean, it is only one mile from one end of downtown to the other. 

            Best Regards,

            Donovan

            --- On Mon, 2/16/09, g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

              From: g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com>
              Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And Now for Something a Little Different
              To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>, "deb" <debismith at moscow.com>
              Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
              Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 5:59 AM


              I'd also be interested in a little documentation on these "underground tunnels through downtown Moscow" When, from where to where, and why?

              g
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Ted Moffett 
                To: deb 
                Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
                Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:24 AM
                Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And Now for Something a Little Different


                Name one "underground" newspaper from the "sixties" based in this area...

                Ted Moffett

                 
                On 2/12/09, deb <debismith at moscow.com> wrote: 
                  What an interesting job! It might actually be fun to look at Moscow's
                  historical porn industry---heaven knows we have other oddities in our
                  history (Frank Robinson ring a bell? How's about those underground tunnels
                  through downtown? What about the underground newspapers in the sixties? The
                  subversive meetings of the MOLES? religious schisms and flame wars?).
                  Perhaps it is a book. "The Weird History and Current Conditions of  a Small
                  Idaho Town". We certainly have enough local chatracters and color to do it.
                  And, by the way, Joan Opyr's new book, From Hell to Breakfast, is now out!!!
                  Yahoo--the adventure continues!
                  Debi R-S


                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
                  To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
                  Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:34 PM
                  Subject: [Vision2020] And Now for Something a Little Different


                  > If you recently stole the Dutch City of Leeuwarden's municipal porn
                  > archive, city officials would like a word with you.
                  >
                  > In a related news item, cities in the Netherlands have municipal porn
                  > archives.
                  >
                  > Courtesy of the Associated Press at:
                  >
                  > http://tinyurl.com/at47ld
                  >
                  > ------------------------------------------------
                  >
                  > Dutch city fears loss of pornography archive
                  > By TOBY STERLING
                  > Associated Press Writer
                  >
                  > The municipal pornography archive in the Dutch city of Leeuwarden is
                  > missing and officials fear it may be gone for good.
                  >
                  > Spokesman Erik Krikke of the city's historical center said the archive -
                  > which contained photos, drawings and erotic texts with a connection to the
                  > city - may have been taken home "accidentally" by an employee or visitor.
                  >
                  > "We're hoping that someone will say 'Hey, I have that in my attic' and
                  > bring it back," he said Thursday. "No questions asked."
                  >
                  > Krikke said the collection was small enough to have fit in a moving box.
                  >
                  > Mayor Ferd Crone of Leeuwarden, 87 miles (140 kilometers) north of
                  > Amsterdam, told local media he had been unaware of the collection's
                  > existence and was surprised it was gone.
                  >
                  > Krikke said the bulk of the archive had been assembled by a "fanatic"
                  > curator at the historical center, mostly during the 1960s and '70s. Items
                  > such as pictures by local photographers and artists would be difficult or
                  > impossible to replace.
                  >
                  > The collection included a copy of the rare February 1998 edition of Dutch
                  > Playboy, Krikke said. It featured girls from each of 11 Dutch cities along
                  > the route of the country's most beloved ice skating race, the
                  > Elfstedentocht. One of those girls was from Leeuwarden.
                  >
                  > Asked whether he thought it was unusual for the town to have a pornography
                  > collection, Krikke said "yes" - and that made the loss greater.
                  >
                  > "Actually, we don't have one anymore," he said.
                  >
                  > ------------------------------------------------
                  >
                  > How about it, Moscow?
                  >
                  > Heck.  City hall would have to hire a complete separate staff just to
                  > process public records requests.
                  >
                  > Seeya round town, Moscow.
                  >
                  > Tom Hansen
                  > Moscow, Idaho
                  >
                  > "For a lapsed Lutheran born-again Buddhist pan-Humanist Universalist
                  > Unitarian Wiccan Agnostic like myself there's really no reason ever to go
                  > to work."
                  >
                  > - Roy Zimmerman
                  >
                  >
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