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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oh, for Pete's sake! This forum has gotten so self
righteous and up-in-arms, one can't even make a joking reference to "urban
legend" without having to provide nine thousand proofs! ROTFL!!!! Stop, Stop,
it's making my ribs hurt!!!! It's like watching a zombie movie--too stupid to
watch, too amazingly ridiculous to ignore!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Surely, folks who have been in Moscow a while have
"heard about someone who knew someone who saw the undergound passage between the
building (X) and the building (y) undergound in downtown Moscow before they got
covered up"? I've only been here about 25 years, and have heard this urban
myth....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As for the "underground newspapers", what were all
these old hippies (this poster being one) who came to Moscow to finish
their lives doing in the sixties? There were "underground newspapers"
everywhere. Granted, most had a run of two copies before the mimeo machine fumes
put them out for the count, but they must have been in MOSCOW? They were in
PULLMAN....the last bastion of the Ole Hippy cannot go undefended!!! (That's a
joke, Son. Don't sue me)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Y'all need to get over yourselves, get less
defensive, and grow a sense of humour. No wonder this forum has deteriorated to
five people closing their eyes while slapping each other silly...you look like a
Monty Python skit!!! The Department of Ridiculous Defense Postures...."OOOOH,
OOOH, Prove it!!!" Maybe it's just the long cold winter that's got y'all in a
lather? Get some full spectrum lights, some better antidepressants, or a life
for Ghod's sake, and stop being so flipping grumpy!! </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way, Joan Opyr's newest book is out---some
conflation of characters there look a lot like some Moscovites...From Hell to
Breakfast is a very funny read! and I think some of you could use a really good
laugh......................trust me, you WILL feel better. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Debi R-S</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PS: if there is an iota of sunshine, I suggest
y'all go stand in it as long as it lasts....stimulate that seratonin, you dour
Moscovites!! Laugh! Get some fresh air into those stifled and sour nasal
passages!! Cowboy Up, Kids!! Winter is a ending, though not soon enough to keep
you all from another smack-down, i'm sure.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=bevbafus@verizon.net href="mailto:bevbafus@verizon.net">Bev Bafus</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 16, 2009 6:04
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=265030302-17022009>I
don't know what the original poster had in mind, but at least one of the
creeks in Moscow goes underground somewhere near the junior high, and comes
out near Lilly Street. This is a very large culvert. During dry
season, could be considered a tunnel?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</A>
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>the
lockshop<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 16, 2009 4:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com; Ted Moffett; deb; g. crabtree<BR><B>Cc:</B>
vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] And Now for
Something a Little Different<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm well aware of the U of I's heat tunnels. It
was great fun to go exploring in them when I was a youth. My question was
directed to the assertion of downtown tunnels. The closest the university
system comes to downtown is a couple dozen feet east
of elm between sixth and Idaho ave. Over the years I've
been in the basements of most all of the older downtown structures and I've
seen no indication of tunnels. I'm not saying they don't (or didn't) exist,
I'm just asking for additional information.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=starbliss@gmail.com
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">Ted Moffett</A> ; <A
title=debismith@moscow.com href="mailto:debismith@moscow.com">deb</A> ; <A
title=jampot@roadrunner.com href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">g.
crabtree</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>I know UI has underground tunnels underneath it. I
don't know about downtown though. But what would be the point, I
mean, it is only one mile from one end of downtown to the other.
<BR><BR>Best Regards,<BR><BR>Donovan<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 2/16/09,
g. crabtree <I><<A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</A>></I></B>
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g. <SPAN>crabtree</SPAN> <<A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] And Now for Something a Little Different<BR>To:
"Ted Moffett" <<A
href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com">starbliss@gmail.com</A>>,
"deb" <<A
href="mailto:debismith@moscow.com">debismith@moscow.com</A>><BR>Cc:
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href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>Date:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'd also be interested in a little
documentation on these "underground tunnels through downtown
Moscow" When, from where to where, and why?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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target=_blank rel=nofollow>Ted Moffett</A> </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>To:</B>
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target=_blank rel=nofollow>deb</A> </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><B>Cc:</B>
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<DIV>Name one "underground" newspaper from the "sixties" based
in this area...</DIV>
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<DIV>Ted Moffett<BR><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 2/12/09, <B
class=gmail_sendername>deb</B> <<A
href="mailto:debismith@moscow.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>debismith@moscow.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">What
an interesting job! It might actually be fun to look at
Moscow's<BR>historical porn industry---heaven knows we have
other oddities in our<BR>history (Frank Robinson ring a bell?
How's about those underground tunnels<BR>through downtown?
What about the underground newspapers in the sixties?
The<BR>subversive meetings of the MOLES? religious schisms and
flame wars?).<BR>Perhaps it is a book. "The Weird History and
Current Conditions of a Small<BR>Idaho Town". We
certainly have enough local chatracters and color to do
it.<BR>And, by the way, Joan Opyr's new book, From Hell to
Breakfast, is now out!!!<BR>Yahoo--the adventure
continues!<BR>Debi R-S<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "Tom Hansen" <<A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR>To: <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank
rel=nofollow>vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>Sent: Thursday,
February 12, 2009 3:34 PM<BR>Subject: [Vision2020] And Now for
Something a Little Different<BR><BR><BR>> If you recently
stole the Dutch City of Leeuwarden's municipal porn<BR>>
archive, city officials would like a word with
you.<BR>><BR>> In a related news item, cities in the
Netherlands have municipal porn<BR>>
archives.<BR>><BR>> Courtesy of the Associated Press
at:<BR>><BR>> <A href="http://tinyurl.com/at47ld"
target=_blank
rel=nofollow>http://tinyurl.com/at47ld</A><BR>><BR>>
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Dutch city fears loss of pornography archive<BR>> By TOBY
STERLING<BR>> Associated Press Writer<BR>><BR>> The
municipal pornography archive in the Dutch city of Leeuwarden
is<BR>> missing and officials fear it may be gone for
good.<BR>><BR>> Spokesman Erik Krikke of the city's
historical center said the archive -<BR>> which contained
photos, drawings and erotic texts with a connection to
the<BR>> city - may have been taken home "accidentally" by
an employee or visitor.<BR>><BR>> "We're hoping that
someone will say 'Hey, I have that in my attic' and<BR>>
bring it back," he said Thursday. "No questions
asked."<BR>><BR>> Krikke said the collection was small
enough to have fit in a moving box.<BR>><BR>> Mayor Ferd
Crone of Leeuwarden, 87 miles (140 kilometers) north
of<BR>> Amsterdam, told local media he had been unaware of
the collection's<BR>> existence and was surprised it was
gone.<BR>><BR>> Krikke said the bulk of the archive had
been assembled by a "fanatic"<BR>> curator at the
historical center, mostly during the 1960s and '70s.
Items<BR>> such as pictures by local photographers and
artists would be difficult or<BR>> impossible to
replace.<BR>><BR>> The collection included a copy of the
rare February 1998 edition of Dutch<BR>> Playboy, Krikke
said. It featured girls from each of 11 Dutch cities
along<BR>> the route of the country's most beloved ice
skating race, the<BR>> Elfstedentocht. One of those girls
was from Leeuwarden.<BR>><BR>> Asked whether he thought
it was unusual for the town to have a pornography<BR>>
collection, Krikke said "yes" - and that made the loss
greater.<BR>><BR>> "Actually, we don't have one
anymore," he said.<BR>><BR>>
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How about it, Moscow?<BR>><BR>> Heck. City
hall would have to hire a complete separate staff just
to<BR>> process public records requests.<BR>><BR>>
Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>><BR>> Tom Hansen<BR>>
Moscow, Idaho<BR>><BR>> "For a lapsed Lutheran
born-again Buddhist pan-Humanist Universalist<BR>>
Unitarian Wiccan Agnostic like myself there's really no reason
ever to go<BR>> to work."<BR>><BR>> - Roy
Zimmerman<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
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