[Vision2020] words and actions (Testosterone Reality Check)

[Joe Campbell]

I won't deny that some liberals use the charge of racism in this way,  
just as some conservatives are wife beaters and some liberals are  
perverts. Some men are liars and some women drive too fast. I could go  
on but you get the point.

The question is whether my charge of No Weatherman's subject lines  
being racist is an attempt to silence him. (Since he set a record for  
posts on the V leading up to the election this strikes me as an absurd  
suggestion.

In any event, you're free to look at the subject lines from November  
and October and judge for youself.

Joe Campbell

On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:29 PM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:

> The problem with some(not all) of those on the left is that they use  
> charges of racism against those on the right when ever they disagree  
> with the view point  of an African-American who is on the left. This  
> is usually an attempt is squash dissent as people do not want to run  
> the risk of being labeled racist. This same approach could also be  
> used on those that disagree with Clarance Thomas. There are  
> legitimate racist statements that can be criticized. but far too  
> often it is merely a disagreement in viewpoint.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:52:20 -0800
> To: Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] words and actions (Testosterone Reality  
> Check)
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> To what extent do liberals have to support "diversity"? To the extent
>> of racism? Do you think the acceptability of slavery is an idea I  
>> have
>> to sustain in order to remain a true liberal? I don't.
>>
>> Maybe I'm commited to the view that people have the right to say
>> whatever they want but that includes my right to say when they've  
>> gone
>> too far. All you have to do is look at the subject lines of No
>> Weatherman's posts in November and October. I think that that went  
>> too
>> far and if you don't please come by Tursday and explain to me why  
>> not.
>>
>> Again the issue isn't whether one has a right to say such things. I
>> won't be denying that. But whether the comments in question are
>> racist. I think they are Crabtree thinks they are not. I'm going to
>> try to show that he us wrong.
>>
>> How am I failing according to your standards of what it is to be a
>> liberal?
>>
>> Joe Campbell
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:36 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Conservatives don't make a big talking point about diversity of  
>>> ideas,
>>> they have other fish to fry.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Tom Hansen wrote:
>>>> Paul Rumelhart stated:
>>>>
>>>> " . . . and for all the liberals anyway to remember that they are
>>>> supposed
>>>> to be appreciative of other viewpoints."
>>>>
>>>> And what sayeth you about conservatives, Paul?
>>>>
>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>
>>>> "For a lapsed Lutheran born-again Buddhist pan-Humanist  
>>>> Universalist
>>>> Unitarian Wiccan Agnostic like myself there's really no reason ever
>>>> to go
>>>> to work."
>>>>
>>>> - Roy Zimmerman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>> This message was sent by First Step Internet.
>>>>          http://www.fsr.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> =======================================================
>>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,
>>>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
>>>>              http://www.fsr.net
>>>>         mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>> =======================================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> =======================================================
>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,
>>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
>>>              http://www.fsr.net
>>>         mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> =======================================================
>>
>> =======================================================
>> List services made available by First Step Internet,
>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
>>               http://www.fsr.net
>>          mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
>> =======================================================