[Vision2020] Walt Minnick

Thu Aug 27 07:54:44 PDT 2009

Tom,

Are you saying that there are two things you don't like about Minnick?  
His face!

As a Democrat, at least I know what party the declared Republican  
candidate will stand for, with Minnick, I have no idea which way the  
wind will blow/

On Aug 27, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:

> FLIP!
>
> "But, if you can't afford it [health insurance], the government's  
> going to have to help you with those premiums.  If we do that, we  
> can bring down the cost of the average premium about thirty percent  
> and improve the quality of health care in this country."
>
> - Walt Minnick (October 19, 2008)
>
> Courtesy of the Sali-Minnick Debate - Start at the 3:00 point at:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccyHJ6RH3I4
>
> ------------------------------------------
>
> FLOP!
>
> [Courtesy of today's Moscow-Pullman Daily News]
>
> "Minnick said his opposition to the public option stems from  
> concerns over
> increasing the deficit and said he would vote against the 1,047 page  
> bill
> produced by the U.S. House of Representatives.
>
> 'I'm not going to vote for any legislation that digs the debt ...  
> deeper,'
> he said."
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Of course, the odds are always 50-50 from which side of his mouth  
> Walt Minnick will speak.
>
> Seeya at Farmers' Market, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>
>
> > From: donaldrose at cpcinternet.com
> > To: kmmos1 at verizon.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:52:52 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Walt Minnick
> >
> > Good Morning Ken,
> >
> > I cheerfully stand by the remarks I made last night. A cursory  
> review of the history of Dixiecrats and Boll Weevils reveals that  
> jackass is a kindly description - and as card-carrying Blue Dog he  
> is, in fact, like it or not, an heir of that peculiar ideology.
> > You apparently are comfortable with the Rep. Minnick's voting  
> record - I'm not. He is, in his own words a Democrat by default.
> > http://mountaingoatreport.typepad.com/the_mountaingoat_report/2009/08/walt-minnick-bona-fide-conservative.html
> >
> > "Perhaps most revealing is what he told David Broder of the  
> Washington Post on why he became a Democrat.
> > 'In 1996, Sen. Bob Kerrey of Nebraska, then head of the Democratic  
> Senatorial Campaign Committee, recruited Minnick to run against  
> Republican Sen. Larry Craig. "I was an independent, and I told him I  
> wanted to run as an independent. He had no problem with that, but  
> Cecil Andrus [the former Idaho governor and interior secretary]  
> phoned me and said that if that was my plan, they'd run another  
> Democrat against Craig and see that I finished third. So at that  
> point I became a Democrat."
> >
> > Mr. Minnick will be a one term Charlie. He has lost liberal  
> Democratic support, the Republicans will run a sane (unlike Bill  
> Sali) candidate against him and that will be that. And that  
> political reality slap couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
> >
> > Rose Huskey
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kenneth Marcy [mailto:kmmos1 at verizon.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:50 PM
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Cc: Rosemary
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Walt Minnick
> >
> > On Wednesday 26 August 2009 21:27:54 Rosemary wrote:
> > > I attended the Walt Minnick question and answer thingy tonight  
> at the 1912
> > > Building. My remarks were prepared in advance and follow this  
> paragraph.
> > > Although I did not call him a jackass (as he accused me of doing)
> >
> > First, without some sort of mutation, the biological facts are  
> that like
> > breeds like within the diversity and varieties of a species. You  
> said to the
> > Congressman that he "as a Blue Dog Democrat, are the philosophical  
> descendant
> > of the jackasses who formed the ... " etc., etc., as below. If  
> like breeds
> > like, the descendant of a jackass is a jackass. Second, the  
> Congressman did
> > not accuse you of anything. What he asked you not to do was to not  
> use
> > pejorative language in a meeting the intention of which was to  
> conduct civil
> > discourse. Publicly calling him a jackass is pejorative, and he  
> spoke truth
> > to you.
> >
> > > after hearing his rambling non-answers and half-assed  
> explanations for an
> > > hour, I probably should have. At least Republicans are honest  
> enough not
> > > to pretend they are Democrats.
> >
> > Idaho Republicans have the closed-door luxury of being such a  
> politically
> > homogeneous monoculture that they don't have to pretend anything,  
> nor do they
> > have to act in ways that many non-Idaho Republicans take for  
> granted, like
> > disclosing who are their campaign contributors.
> >
> > > I can't say the same for Rep. Minnick.
> >
> > Of course you can't say that Congressman Minnick is a Republican  
> pretending to
> > be a Democrat, because he is a Democrat. And what's more, he is an  
> extremely
> > practical Democrat in that he knows that his longer-term  
> effectiveness as an
> > Idaho Congressman depends on his ability to be re-elected. And  
> based on his
> > discussion this evening, he is extraordinarily aware that he was  
> not speaking
> > to a closed-door, Democrats-by-invitation-only, crowd inside the  
> 1912 Center
> > with no press present. He was quite aware that he was speaking to  
> the entire
> > Idaho Congressional District 1 voting populace.
> >
> > > "Last night we lost a great Democrat. Sen. Kennedy was a  
> tireless advocate
> > > for the poor, civil rights, labor, and universal health care. He
> > > personified the liberal, progressive wing of our party. You, on  
> the other
> > > hand, Congressman Minnick, as a Blue Dog Democrat, are the  
> philosophical
> > > descendent of the jackasses who formed the Boll Weevils, and the  
> Dixiecrats
> > > - splinter groups that stood against all that Teddy Kennedy  
> stood for.
> > > Please tell us, based on your voting record, including the fact  
> that you
> > > have cast 60% of your congressional votes with the Republicans,  
> and your
> > > attitude toward the public health care option, why you should  
> expect
> > > liberal Democrats to support you in 2010."
> >
> > Congressman Minnick explained that most of the Congressional votes  
> in the
> > tally you mentioned were earmark votes, against which he has  
> pledged to vote
> > as much as possible. He also mentioned that of Speaker Pelosi's  
> list of 36
> > most important votes, he supported 32 of the 36. That's 89 percent  
> with the
> > Democratic Speaker of the House, not 60 percent against the  
> Democrats.
> >
> > Choosing one's battles carefully is critical to conserving  
> resources for the
> > really important battles, and it appears that Congressman Minnick  
> has learned
> > this lesson quickly and well. Idaho Liberal Democrats would be  
> well-advised
> > likewise to learn this lesson, too, because in a state that, in  
> normal years
> > without an Obama national landslide, normally votes on an order of  
> magnitude
> > of 2 to 1 for Republicans over Democrats, Idaho First District  
> Democrats of
> > any kind, liberal, middle-of-the-road, or blue dog, are unlikely  
> to have
> > anywhere else to go in 2010 but to the first Democratic incumbent  
> Congressman
> > in their lifetimes. Those Democrats may be well-advised to be  
> thankful that
> > they have elected to office a Congressman practical enough to be  
> bi-partisan
> > enough to attract sufficient support that would otherwise vote  
> Republican, to
> > re-elect the incumbent.
> >
> > Edward Moore Kennedy was an extraordinarily effective Senator in  
> part because
> > he learned how to form friendships, how to form working  
> relationships, how to
> > form bi-partisan coalitions across many kinds of lines within the  
> US Senate.
> > He spent the better part of half a century learning how to do that  
> well.
> > Idaho's First Congressional District has a Congressman who has  
> learned that
> > lesson with respect to his constituency in his first few months in  
> office,
> > and he'll need to use wisely that education to return to Congress  
> in 2011.
> > Those who recognize the benefits to Idaho and the nation of  
> returning Walt
> > Minnick for a second term would do well to recognize the nature of  
> his
> > constituency, and not complain that it is not as liberal as that  
> of the late,
> > great, US Senator from Massachusetts.
> >
> >
> > Ken
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