<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Tom,<div><br></div><div>Are you saying that there are two things you don't like about Minnick? His face!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>As a Democrat, at least I know what party the declared Republican candidate will stand for, with Minnick, I have no idea which way the wind will blow/</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 27, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">FLIP!<br> <br>"But, if you can't afford it [health insurance], the government's going to have to help you with those premiums. If we do that, we can bring down the cost of the average premium about thirty percent and improve the quality of health care in this country."<br> <br>- Walt Minnick (October 19, 2008)<br> <br>Courtesy of the Sali-Minnick Debate - Start at the 3:00 point at:<br> <br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccyHJ6RH3I4">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccyHJ6RH3I4</a><br> <br>------------------------------------------<br> <br>FLOP!<br> <br>[Courtesy of today's Moscow-Pullman Daily News]<br> <br>"Minnick said his opposition to the public option stems from concerns over<br>increasing the deficit and said he would vote against the 1,047 page bill<br>produced by the U.S. House of Representatives.<br><br>'I'm not going to vote for any legislation that digs the debt ... deeper,'<br>he said."<br> <br>-----------------------------------------------------------------<br> <br>Of course, the odds are always 50-50 from which side of his mouth Walt Minnick will speak.<br> <br>Seeya at Farmers' Market, Moscow.<br> <br>Tom Hansen<br>Moscow, Idaho<br><br> <br> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:donaldrose@cpcinternet.com">donaldrose@cpcinternet.com</a><br>> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:kmmos1@verizon.net">kmmos1@verizon.net</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:52:52 -0700<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Walt Minnick<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Good Morning Ken,<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> I cheerfully stand by the remarks I made last night. A cursory review of the history of Dixiecrats and Boll Weevils reveals that jackass is a kindly description - and as card-carrying Blue Dog he is, in fact, like it or not, an heir of that peculiar ideology.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> You apparently are comfortable with the Rep. Minnick's voting record - I'm not. He is, in his own words a Democrat by default.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://mountaingoatreport.typepad.com/the_mountaingoat_report/2009/08/walt-minnick-bona-fide-conservative.html">http://mountaingoatreport.typepad.com/the_mountaingoat_report/2009/08/walt-minnick-bona-fide-conservative.html</a><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> "Perhaps most revealing is what he told David Broder of the Washington Post on why he became a Democrat.<br>> 'In 1996, Sen. Bob Kerrey of Nebraska, then head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, recruited Minnick to run against Republican Sen. Larry Craig. "I was an independent, and I told him I wanted to run as an independent. He had no problem with that, but Cecil Andrus [the former Idaho governor and interior secretary] phoned me and said that if that was my plan, they'd run another Democrat against Craig and see that I finished third. So at that point I became a Democrat."<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Mr. Minnick will be a one term Charlie. He has lost liberal Democratic support, the Republicans will run a sane (unlike Bill Sali) candidate against him and that will be that. And that political reality slap couldn't happen to a nicer guy.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Rose Huskey<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Kenneth Marcy [<a href="mailto:kmmos1@verizon.net">mailto:kmmos1@verizon.net</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:50 PM<br>> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>> Cc: Rosemary<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Walt Minnick<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> On Wednesday 26 August 2009 21:27:54 Rosemary wrote:<br>> > I attended the Walt Minnick question and answer thingy tonight at the 1912<br>> > Building. My remarks were prepared in advance and follow this paragraph.<br>> > Although I did not call him a jackass (as he accused me of doing)<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> First, without some sort of mutation, the biological facts are that like<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> breeds like within the diversity and varieties of a species. You said to the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Congressman that he "as a Blue Dog Democrat, are the philosophical descendant<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> of the jackasses who formed the ... " etc., etc., as below. If like breeds<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> like, the descendant of a jackass is a jackass. Second, the Congressman did<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> not accuse you of anything. What he asked you not to do was to not use<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> pejorative language in a meeting the intention of which was to conduct civil<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> discourse. Publicly calling him a jackass is pejorative, and he spoke truth<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> to you.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > after hearing his rambling non-answers and half-assed explanations for an<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > hour, I probably should have. At least Republicans are honest enough not<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > to pretend they are Democrats.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Idaho Republicans have the closed-door luxury of being such a politically<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> homogeneous monoculture that they don't have to pretend anything, nor do they<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> have to act in ways that many non-Idaho Republicans take for granted, like<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> disclosing who are their campaign contributors.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > I can't say the same for Rep. Minnick.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Of course you can't say that Congressman Minnick is a Republican pretending to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> be a Democrat, because he is a Democrat. And what's more, he is an extremely<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> practical Democrat in that he knows that his longer-term effectiveness as an<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Idaho Congressman depends on his ability to be re-elected. And based on his<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> discussion this evening, he is extraordinarily aware that he was not speaking<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> to a closed-door, Democrats-by-invitation-only, crowd inside the 1912 Center<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> with no press present. He was quite aware that he was speaking to the entire<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Idaho Congressional District 1 voting populace.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > "Last night we lost a great Democrat. Sen. Kennedy was a tireless advocate<br>> > for the poor, civil rights, labor, and universal health care. He<br>> > personified the liberal, progressive wing of our party. You, on the other<br>> > hand, Congressman Minnick, as a Blue Dog Democrat, are the philosophical<br>> > descendent of the jackasses who formed the Boll Weevils, and the Dixiecrats<br>> > - splinter groups that stood against all that Teddy Kennedy stood for.<br>> > Please tell us, based on your voting record, including the fact that you<br>> > have cast 60% of your congressional votes with the Republicans, and your<br>> > attitude toward the public health care option, why you should expect<br>> > liberal Democrats to support you in 2010."<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Congressman Minnick explained that most of the Congressional votes in the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> tally you mentioned were earmark votes, against which he has pledged to vote<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> as much as possible. He also mentioned that of Speaker Pelosi's list of 36<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> most important votes, he supported 32 of the 36. That's 89 percent with the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Democratic Speaker of the House, not 60 percent against the Democrats.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Choosing one's battles carefully is critical to conserving resources for the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> really important battles, and it appears that Congressman Minnick has learned<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> this lesson quickly and well. Idaho Liberal Democrats would be well-advised<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> likewise to learn this lesson, too, because in a state that, in normal years<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> without an Obama national landslide, normally votes on an order of magnitude<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> of 2 to 1 for Republicans over Democrats, Idaho First District Democrats of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> any kind, liberal, middle-of-the-road, or blue dog, are unlikely to have<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> anywhere else to go in 2010 but to the first Democratic incumbent Congressman<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> in their lifetimes. Those Democrats may be well-advised to be thankful that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> they have elected to office a Congressman practical enough to be bi-partisan<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> enough to attract sufficient support that would otherwise vote Republican, to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> re-elect the incumbent.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Edward Moore Kennedy was an extraordinarily effective Senator in part because<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> he learned how to form friendships, how to form working relationships, how to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> form bi-partisan coalitions across many kinds of lines within the US Senate.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> He spent the better part of half a century learning how to do that well.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Idaho's First Congressional District has a Congressman who has learned that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> lesson with respect to his constituency in his first few months in office,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> and he'll need to use wisely that education to return to Congress in 2011.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Those who recognize the benefits to Idaho and the nation of returning Walt<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Minnick for a second term would do well to recognize the nature of his<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> constituency, and not complain that it is not as liberal as that of the late,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> great, US Senator from Massachusetts.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Ken<br>> No virus found in this incoming message.<br>> Checked by AVG -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.67/2326 - Release Date: 08/25/09 18:07:00<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>> =======================================================<br>=======================================================<br>List services made available by First Step Internet,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br> <a href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> <br> <a href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a><br>=======================================================</div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>