[Vision2020] 'Death to Obama' Sign Holder Detained

Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 13 19:28:57 PDT 2009


Tom,

How do you intend to prove he understood and meant the words he used as a true threaT?

I consider the words ugly, but I also think they're free speech. Now if he is plotting to make it happen, sure, prosecute him.

I'm with Kai and Bear.

Sunil

> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:01:25 -0700
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> To: bear at moscow.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com; fotopro63 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 'Death to Obama' Sign Holder Detained
> 
> Your analogy, Bear, is faulty at best.
> 
> Claiming that somebody should be tried, convicted, and justly punished for
> committing war crimes is remote to any comparison of a sign depicting
> comments such as "Death to Obama and Death to Michelle and Their Two
> Children."
> 
> The sign, in my opinion meets each of the criterion enumerated in Kai
> Eiselein's posting concerning threats to a president.
> 
> "A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the
> following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt:
> 
> First: That the person uttered words alleged to be the threat
> against the President;
> 
> Second: That the person understood and meant the words he used as a
> true threat; and
> 
> Third: That the person uttered the words knowingly and willfully."
> 
> Which of these criterion do you feel is not met?
> 
> Until tomorrow . . .
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to change
> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> 
> - Unknown
> 
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