[Vision2020] 'Death to Obama' Sign Holder Detained

[Tom Hansen]

Then . . . you feel it to be constitutionally sound to threaten the lives
of not only the president, but the president's spouse and children in a
public venue?

This is NOT a general statement, like "All right-wing pukes should die". 
These are threats to specific individuals.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho



> Kai / Tom,
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> I'm on the side that says is IS within his rights to say it. ALSO, I
> disagree with the SOB, but I'm willing to defend his right to say it.
> Only when we can stand up and defend the right of some one that gets
> up and says something we find morally aborant, can we really say we
> have free speech.
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> Wayne
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> On Aug 13, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Kai Eiselein wrote:
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>> As a matter of fact, I do believe he was within his First Amendment
>> rights. (Note: I DO NOT agree with the sign.)
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>> THREATS AGAINST PRESIDENT
>> 18 USC 871, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to
>> willfully make a true threat to injure or kill the President of the
>> United States.
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>> A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the
>> following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt:
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>> First: That the person uttered words alleged to be the threat
>> against the President;
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>> Second: That the person understood and meant the words he used as a
>> true threat; and
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>> Third: That the person uttered the words knowingly and willfully.
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>> A "threat" is a statement expressing an intention to kill or injure
>> the President; and a "true threat" means a serious threat as
>> distinguished from words used as mere political argument, idle or
>> careless talk, or something said in a joking manner.
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>> The essence of the offense is the knowing and willful making of a
>> true threat. So, if it is proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the
>> person knowingly made a true threat against the President, willfully
>> intending that it be understood by others as a serious threat, then
>> the offense is complete; it is not necessary to prove that the
>> person actually intended to carry out the threat.
>>
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