[Vision2020] "Harsh" Interrogations -As ye sow, so shall you reep

[lfalen]

error
I should have said Former CIA Director Hayden
Roger
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From: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:42:29 -0700
To: bear at moscow.com,  vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "Harsh" Interrogations -As ye sow,so shall you reep

> Bear
> You are wrong on this.
> Because a confession was extracted fron this lady does not mean that she was a spy. What we may have done at GITMO had no bearing on how Iran conducts interrogations. They would use brutal tactics no matter what we do.
> As to our security I believe the following:
> 1. If an interrogator thinks that there is good reason to believe a detainee has information of an impending attack and does not use what ever means is necessary to obtain that information and 
> 2 There is a subsequent attack that results in a loss of life.then
> 3. Those interrogators should be prosecuted for dereliction of duty. 
> Former CIA Director Casey said that over 50% of the valid information about al-Quaeda came from detainees and that an attack on L.A was thwarted by information obtained from KSM.
> Roger
> 
> -----Original message-----
> From: bear at moscow.com
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:50:18 -0700
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] "Harsh" Interrogations -As ye sow, so shall you reep
> 
> > Well, what we have said is fine, is now coming back to bite us.
> > 
> >  American-Iranian journalist Roxana Saberi was sentenced  to eight years' jail on Saturday
> > after 
> > being convicted in a secret trial of spying for the United States. Her Iranian-born
> > father, Reza 
> > Saberi, says she may have been tricked into a confession, believing she would be released
> > if 
> > she co-operated with the authorities. He said his daughter was so depressed by her
> > sentence - 
> > the harshest ever given to a dual national on security charges in Iran - that she is
> > threatening 
> > to go on hunger strike.
> > 
> > Will they force feed her like we have force fed the prisoners at Guantánamo Bay Detention 
> > Camp when they have gone on hunger strikes? IF they do, what makes us think we have a
> > right 
> > to object?
> > 
> > Did they use enhanced interrogation techniques to discover that she was a spy? And
> > remember, 
> > she was arrested for SPYING. If she was in the United States could we have sued enhanced 
> > interrogation techniques?  US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said on BBC Radio 4
> > that 
> > since these methods are not intended to punish they do not violate the Eighth Amendment to
> > 
> > the United States Constitution, barring "cruel and unusual punishment", and as such may
> > not 
> > be unconstitutional.
> > 
> > Well, we started this dog fight, now we pay. How do we get back on the moral high ground 
> > where this kind of behavior from ANY GOVERNMENT is wrong? I believe it starts with the 
> > indictment and arrest of George W. Bush et al. Or don't they think they'd get a fair
> > trial? They 
> > sure as hell would get better treatment awaiting trial than they gave!
> > 
> > 
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