[Vision2020] "Harsh" Interrogations -As ye sow, so shall you reep

[lfalen]

Bear
You are wrong on this.
Because a confession was extracted fron this lady does not mean that she was a spy. What we may have done at GITMO had no bearing on how Iran conducts interrogations. They would use brutal tactics no matter what we do.
As to our security I believe the following:
1. If an interrogator thinks that there is good reason to believe a detainee has information of an impending attack and does not use what ever means is necessary to obtain that information and 
2 There is a subsequent attack that results in a loss of life.then
3. Those interrogators should be prosecuted for dereliction of duty. 
Former CIA Director Casey said that over 50% of the valid information about al-Quaeda came from detainees and that an attack on L.A was thwarted by information obtained from KSM.
Roger

-----Original message-----
From: bear at moscow.com
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:50:18 -0700
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] "Harsh" Interrogations -As ye sow, so shall you reep

> Well, what we have said is fine, is now coming back to bite us.
> 
>  American-Iranian journalist Roxana Saberi was sentenced  to eight years' jail on Saturday
> after 
> being convicted in a secret trial of spying for the United States. Her Iranian-born
> father, Reza 
> Saberi, says she may have been tricked into a confession, believing she would be released
> if 
> she co-operated with the authorities. He said his daughter was so depressed by her
> sentence - 
> the harshest ever given to a dual national on security charges in Iran - that she is
> threatening 
> to go on hunger strike.
> 
> Will they force feed her like we have force fed the prisoners at Guantánamo Bay Detention 
> Camp when they have gone on hunger strikes? IF they do, what makes us think we have a
> right 
> to object?
> 
> Did they use enhanced interrogation techniques to discover that she was a spy? And
> remember, 
> she was arrested for SPYING. If she was in the United States could we have sued enhanced 
> interrogation techniques?  US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said on BBC Radio 4
> that 
> since these methods are not intended to punish they do not violate the Eighth Amendment to
> 
> the United States Constitution, barring "cruel and unusual punishment", and as such may
> not 
> be unconstitutional.
> 
> Well, we started this dog fight, now we pay. How do we get back on the moral high ground 
> where this kind of behavior from ANY GOVERNMENT is wrong? I believe it starts with the 
> indictment and arrest of George W. Bush et al. Or don't they think they'd get a fair
> trial? They 
> sure as hell would get better treatment awaiting trial than they gave!
> 
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