[Vision2020] State Faculty Union Responds to Financial Crisis
Joe Campbell
philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Wed Apr 22 20:13:20 PDT 2009
Tenure without the salary?
Joe Campbell
On Apr 22, 2009, at 2:13 PM, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> You are reading in things that arn't there. I said only that future
> tenure contract should not lock in salaries in the event that every
> one else takes a pay cut. In this narrow regard, no one should be
> immuned.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Gier, Nicholas" NGIER at uidaho.edu
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:01:58 -0700
> To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com, nickgier at roadrunner.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] State Faculty Union Responds to Financial
> Crisis
>
>> Hi Roger,
>>
>> Here are your exact words:
>>
>> "If this is prohibited by tenured rules, these should be changed
>> going forward. Contracts should be honored as the early retires
>> contracts should be honored. The thing is do not make these kinds
>> of contracts in the future."
>>
>> Perhaps you did not mean to say it, but you wrote this and it
>> clearly implies that future contracts for faculty would not include
>> tenure.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lfalen [mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com]
>> Sent: Wed 4/22/2009 1:53 PM
>> To: Gier, Nicholas; nickgier at roadrunner.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] State Faculty Union Responds to Financial
>> Crisis
>>
>> I did not say anything about eliminating tenure, only that they
>> should be subject to same rules as staff when it comes to pay cuts.
>> Roger
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: "Gier, Nicholas" NGIER at uidaho.edu
>> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:42:01 -0700
>> To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com, nickgier at roadrunner.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] State Faculty Union Responds to Financial
>> Crisis
>>
>>> Hi Roger,
>>>
>>> If you are suggesting that Idaho eliminate tenure, then
>>> prospective faculty members will not apply for jobs on Idaho's
>>> campuses. That of course would be disastrous for Idaho higher
>>> education.
>>>
>>> Tenure is necessary for academic freedom and that means, after a
>>> rigorous probationary period of 5-7 years, tenured professors have
>>> career-long protection from political interference in their
>>> teaching, research, and service.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com on behalf of lfalen
>>> Sent: Wed 4/22/2009 10:39 AM
>>> To: nickgier at roadrunner.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] State Faculty Union Responds to
>>> Financial Crisis
>>>
>>> Nick
>>> I agree with you on administrative position and athletics, though
>>> not necessarily on tenure. If cuts do get down to staff positions,
>>> it should also include tenured faculty. If this is prohibited by
>>> tenured rules, these should be changed going forward. Contracts
>>> should be honored as the early retires contracts should be
>>> honored. The thing is do not make these kinds of contracts in the
>>> future.
>>> Roger
>>> -----Original message-----
>>> From: nickgier at roadrunner.com
>>> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:54:37 -0700
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] State Faculty Union Responds to Financial
>>> Crisis
>>>
>>>> IFT HIGHER EDUCATION COUNCIL RESPONDS TO FINANCIAL CRISIS
>>>>
>>>> On April 15, 2009 the Higher Education Council of the Idaho
>>>> Federation of Teachers, AFT/AFL-CIO met in a phone conference to
>>>> discuss the financial crisis.
>>>>
>>>> Those present were Valia Tatarova, Idaho State University
>>>> (physics); Lynn Lubamersky, Boise State University (history);
>>>> Chris Riggs, Lewis-Clark State College (history); Lynne
>>>> Haagensen, University of Idaho (art); Joyce Lider, North Idaho
>>>> College (English); Susan Andrews, IFT Vice-President for Higher
>>>> Education; and Nick Gier, IFT President.
>>>>
>>>> I. Salary Reduction Proposal. According to a legal opinion from
>>>> the AFT national office, academic tenure protects base salary.
>>>> Tenure is a property right and at least two court cases have
>>>> recognized that base salary is part of that property. The IFT
>>>> Higher Education Council voted to oppose any salary reductions
>>>> for tenured faculty. We join the BSU Faculty Senate President in
>>>> vowing to file a case action suit if tenured faculty are forced
>>>> to take a pay cut. In a related decision the IFT Higher
>>>> Education Council voted that classified staff, lecturers, and non-
>>>> tenured faculty be exempt from salary reductions and proposed
>>>> that salary savings be taken from those making more than $100,000.
>>>>
>>>> II. Teaching positions should have priority over administrative
>>>> positions. Nation-wide administrative positions have generally
>>>> grown at a greater rate than teaching positions. The example of
>>>> BSU is especially egregious: from 2005-2007 BSU had over 100 more
>>>> administrators than its peers but 191 fewer faculty members
>>>> instructing students than peer institutions. Administrative
>>>> salaries have also outpaced faculty pay. Since 1982 the salaries
>>>> of 11 top UI administrative positions have increased 260 percent
>>>> while full professor salaries increased 198 percent. (CPI for
>>>> the period was 215.) (For more see <www.home.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/salaries.htm
>>>> >.) The IFT Higher Education Council voted to recommend that
>>>> administrative positions be cut before teaching positions.
>>>>
>>>> III. Appropriated funds are for academics not athletics. Since
>>>> 1987 state subsidies for athletics at the UI has grown 338
>>>> percent while appropriations for Idaho higher education has grown
>>>> 159 percent. Currently the state subsidies for UI and ISU
>>>> athletics are over $3 million. Since 1999 private contributions
>>>> to UI athletics rose 246 percent, indicating the potential for it
>>>> to wean itself, as any non-academic program should, from its
>>>> state subsidy. (For more see <www.home.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/athletics.htm
>>>> >.) The IFT Higher Education Council voted to request that state
>>>> monies for athletics on all Idaho campuses be phased out over 4-6
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> IV. Program reduction procedures must be revised. In 2002 the
>>>> Idaho State Board of Education (SBOE) instituted new procedures
>>>> for program reduction. At that time the IFT objected to a lack
>>>> of protection for tenured faculty and requested that the
>>>> procedures be revised. As no revisions have been made, IFT
>>>> president asked in December 2008 for a legal opinion from the
>>>> national office. The response was that these procedures
>>>> undermine tenure and do not comply with Idaho law. (For more see <www.home.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/ProgramReduction.htm
>>>> >.) The IFT Higher Education Council voted to urge the SBOE to
>>>> revise these procedures such that tenured faculty have the same
>>>> protection as under the procedures for financial exigency.
>>>>
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