[Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question

bear at moscow.com bear at moscow.com
Fri Apr 17 17:33:23 PDT 2009


Gary,

My bad *S*

Wayne


> Far be it from me to get all Sherlock Holmes on anyone but, didn't this
> guy "sign" his original post to the V Wayne M. Price? Really not a very
> diligent attempt at being the anonymous provocateur was it?
> 
> g
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Donovan Arnold 
>   To: Sunil Ramalingam ; vision 2020 ; bear at moscow.com 
>   Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:22 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> 
> 
>         Wayne,
> 
>         It is obvious you aren't an attorney, I know you have to be able
> to pass law school and the bar, a feat far past your competence. But it
> is also obvious you have no spine by hiding behind a psuesdo handle.
> Even your so called friends have condemed the practice of using a false
> identity and attacking others. Although it might just be that they only
> condemn the practice when it happens to their friends and not others.
> Perhaps you can chalk up your dishonesty to defending the Constitution.
> I am sure you and Sunil can come up with some fantango language and
> explaination as to why your unethical behavior is really ethical. 
> 
>         Reality is, Moscow is a small, tiny town, your emails leave an
> IP address footprint, I know your first name is Wayne, and I will
> eventually find out who you are.. There are other people that monitor
> this list that tell me who people are when they try this sort of thing. 
> You are not the first.
> 
>         So you can either tell us now,or I will tell everybody later.  
> 
>         Best Regards,
> 
>         Donovan
> 
>         --- On Fri, 4/17/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>           From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
>           Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
>           To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "Sunil
> Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>, "vision 2020"
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>, bear at moscow.com
>           Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 3:46 PM
> 
> 
>           Been a long time since I was called out to the school yard
> like that Donovan! Many folks
>           on the 
>           list, and that read the list know me, and at this point, you
> have no idea how much
>           pleasure it 
>           gives me to frost your butt by you not knowing me and keeping
> you wondering!
> 
>           And please, quit accusing Ralph Nielsen of being ME! And I
> have not attacked you any more 
>           than you have attacked others! As ye sow, so shall ye reep!
> Next thing you know, you'll
>           accuse 
>           me of being an attorney! LOL
> 
>          
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>           > Bear, Why don't you have the courage to use your real name?
> You attack me
>           p> ersonally, but do so cowardly behind anonymity? 
>           >  
>           > Best Regards,
>           >  
>           > Donovan
>           > 
>           > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
> wrote:
>           > 
>           > 
>           > From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
>           > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
>           > To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>,
> "vision 2020"
>           <vision> 2020 at moscow.com>
>           > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 11:05 AM
>           > 
>           > 
>           > Sunil,
>           > 
>           > I guess what bothers me the most about it becoming a
> personal attack
>           agains> t you as
>           > opposed 
>           > to a vigorous argument against what the issue at hand is.
>           > 
>           > He seems to think that defense lawyers should not defend
> clients with
>           vigor>  or use all of
>           > the 
>           > tools that are provided by law, which WOULD make them
> snakes!  Why don't
>           > people realize
>           > that 
>           > the most vile offenders are the ones that need a zealous
> defense the most,
>           > and that's the
>           > way 
>           > the system is designed to work! Just because you defend a
> client, doesn't
>           m> ean you condone
>           > 
>           > what they are alleged to have done, nor do you share the
> same beliefs! 
>           > 
>           > AND, it seems based on the last election here in Latah
> County, that the
>           Peo> ple of Latah
>           > County 
>           > have no problem with the results of the prosecution of the
> child molester
>           c> ase that he is
>           > so 
>           > upset about. We just had an election back in November and
> there was a
>           choic> e between a new
>           > 
>           > county prosecutor  or the same one that was involved in the
> child
>           moleste> r case. The
>           > People  
>           > spoke and are happy with the ability of a child molester to
> walk the
>           street> s, or they
>           > would have 
>           > changed the elected officer that enabled that.
>           > 
>           > And as far as the sun rising in the east is concerned, it
> shouldn't!
>           Doesn'> t God know that
>           > means 
>           > the sun comes up over the  slave owning, wife beating, 8
> year old bride
>           m> arrying Moslems 
>           > first? They should be denied sun until they change their
> evil ways! *S*
>           >
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>           > > Typical, and predictable as the sun rising in the East.
> When Donovan is
>           > w> rong he can't admit it, and if I call him on it he will
> launch into this
>           > > slimy attack. Kind of like a jellyfish.
>           > > 
>           > > He's an interesting case study.  The prolapse has clearly
> extruded his
>           > enti> re brain, yet he retains sufficient coordination to
> operate a
>           keyboar> d.
>           > > 
>           > > Sunil
>           > > 
>           > > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:28:46 -0700
>           > > From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
>           > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
>           > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com;
>           > thansen at moscow.> com; bear at moscow.com
>           > > 
>           > > Sorry, I disagree. 
>           > >  
>           > > I do agree with what the Ten Commandments say. But I think
> lots of people
>           > d> isagree with what the Ten Commandments intend and imply. 
>           > >  
>           > > What I think is a crock is their release. The reality is,
> child
>           > molesters>  are free, in part, because of the actions of
> Sunil. You can
>           c> all it
>           > wh> atever you want, blame it on anyone else, but that is
> the reality. 
>           > >  
>           > > And I would not be calling the release of child molesters,
> "due
>           > process.">  That term is such an injustice to the victims of
> these
>           people> , or shall
>           > > I call these child molesters, at the risk of offending
> some liberals on
>           > h> ere, monsters. 
>           > >  
>           > > Best Regards,
>           > >  
>           > > Donovan
>           > > 
>           > > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
> wrote:
>           > > 
>           > > 
>           > > From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
>           > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
>           > > To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>,
> "vision 2020"
>           > <visio> n2020 at moscow.com>, "Sunil Ramalingam"
>           <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>> ,
>           > "T> om Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>           > > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 8:11 AM
>           > > 
>           > > 
>           > > Donovan, What a CROCK! 
>           > > 
>           > > First you don't believe what the Ten Commandments say, and
> now you don't
>           > > like the way the 
>           > > law works! IF I read the court documents correctly, there
> was a JUDGE
>           > tha> t released him,
>           > > not 
>           > > Sunil! I am sorry that the State of Idaho, as represented
> by a
>           > prosecutor>  didn't prove
>           > > his/her 
>           > > case that the individual was a threat to society. You're
> pointing the
>           > finge> r in the WRONG 
>           > > direction on how the legal system worked in this case!
>           > > 
>           > > 
>           > > 
>           > > 
>           > >
>          
> _________________________________________________________________________> > __> 
>           > _________________
>           > > > Hansen,
>           > > >  
>           > > > Certainly not a lawyer with a forked tongue that
> misleads people to
>           dra> w
>           > > > the wrong conclusions and to free child molesters.   
>           > > > The child molester can at least claim mental illness for
> this
>           > endangermen> t
>           > > > of children. But what can Sunil claim? 
>           > > > I remember, if my memory
>           > >  serves me correctly, at how angry Hansen was that
>           > > > our local child molester of an eight year old girl, was
> allowed to
>           > driv> e,
>           > > w> ithout supervision, to Lewiston. Guess who was, in
> part,
>           > responsib> le for
>           > > > his release into the Moscow Public?  
>           > > > Best Regards,
>           > > >  
>           > > > Donovan 
>           > > > 
>           > > > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> wrote:
>           > > > 
>           > > > 
>           > > 
>           > > 
>           > > 
>           > 
>           > 
>           > 
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