[Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce

Ralph Nielsen nielsen at uidaho.edu
Wed Apr 15 08:49:26 PDT 2009


I don't know who Bear is, Donovan. But he reads the Bible carefully.  
I wish you would too.

Ralph


On Apr 15, 2009, at 8:46 AM, Donovan Arnold wrote:

> Ralph, who is Bear?
>
> --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 8 year old girl denied divorce
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com, bear at moscow.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 8:38 AM
>
> Dear Donovan,
>
> Bear is correct. You don't read the Bible very carefully, Bear  
> does. Please read his comments again.
>
> The Ten (not Two) Commandments did not come from Jesus, in the New  
> Testament; they came direct from God, in the Old Testament. And  
> they are not the same.
>
> As for slavery, it is not condemned anywhere in the entire Bible,  
> both Old and New Testaments, by either God, Jesus or anyone else.  
> That is "the big picture," as you call it. Slavery is in the  
> context of everything we read in the Bible. Or, as Doug Wilson  
> would put it, Slavery is biblical. I agree with Doug.
>
> Donovan, I think you're trying to discredit the Bible by making  
> false claims about it.
>
> Ralph
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>
>> OK Bear,
>>
>> You asked, I showed you where it was written. You believe whatever  
>> you want to believe. If I cannot convince you that Jesus said to  
>> love thy neighbor, not beat him, so be it. It makes no difference  
>> to me as slavery no longer exists and you are not being rational  
>> or able to look at the big picture. You just want to take little  
>> pieces of the Bible, take them out of context, distort their  
>> meaning in order to try and discredit the book and religion. You  
>> will not be successful, but you are welcome [to] waste your time  
>> trying.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Donovan
>>
>>
>> From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 6:32 AM
>>
>> Donovan,
>>
>> YOU are wrong! NONE of the TEN COMMANDMENTS say that.
>>
>> The discussion was in regard to the TEN COMMANDMENTS. Matthew  
>> 22:34-40 does NOT list
>> the Ten Commandments as they are known to all of the world and  
>> those that read the bible,
>> except YOU of course.
>>
>> First, Matthew 22:34-40 is not  a listing of the Ten Commandments,  
>> the lists known as the
>> Ten
>> Commandments are given in passages in two books of the Bible:  
>> Exodus 20:2-17, Exodus
>> 34:11-27 and Deuteronomy 5:6-21.
>>
>> Second, depending on which religion/denomination (Jewish,
>> Anglican,Reformed,Orthodox,Catholic, Lutheran or other Christian,  
>> the Second Commandment
>> regards the following: You shall have no other gods before me; or,  
>> You shall not make for
>> yourself an idol; or, You shall not make wrongful use of the name  
>> of your God. Nowhere in
>> any list of the TEN COMMANDMENTS is there a "cliff note version"   
>> that reduces the Ten
>> Commandments down to two!
>>
>> Have a nice day
>>
>>
>

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