[Vision2020] Reply to Bear and a Book Recommendation....

[Sue Hovey]

Good point, of course, and one I would ordinarily make myself.  I've thought 
about this a lot in other circumstances and perhaps it comes down to the 
point that subordinate groups may always bash superordinate ones--of course 
in some societies that can get you killed.  And equals may always bash 
equals.  The problem there, of course, is that I might see myself as your 
equal, but you might not have a reciprocal response to me.

I just finished a book which deals mightily with this issue: The Absolutely 
True Diary of a Part-Time Indian, by Sherman Alexie.  It's the National Book 
Award Winner and worthy of that honor.  My copy was a gift, but I'm sure 
Bookpeople probably has it. It's better, I think, than his, The Lone Ranger 
and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven.   But judge for yourself.

Sue H.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <bear at moscow.com>
To: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>; "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>; 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>; "donald edwards" <donaledwards at hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Reply to Why Men are Never Depressed


> For what it's worth........
>
> Evidently, Male bashing is ok........Could you imagine the hue and cries 
> if this same list
> bashed Gay? Black? Native Americans? Asians? Transgenders? or the minority 
> du jure?
>
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>> This is funny, and some of it is true, HOWEVER;
>>
>> > 1. Fox Sports Network and ESPN Sports are the only two tv channel 
>> > presets
>> > they need.  -->  I hate sports, especially if it is televised.
>>
>> > 2. They never have urinary tract problems--beer doesn't have to stop 
>> > and
>> > change color.  --> We get inflamed prostates instead.
>>
>> > 3. They associate belching and farting with other bodily functions such 
>> > as
>> > breathing, and figure they are equally appropriate anywhere.  --> 
>> > Gross!
>>
>> > 4. Mundane everyday chores are "women's work" so they have lots of free
>> > hours to post drivil on the Viz.  --> I confess culpability, although 
>> > not because it
> is
> "women's work."  Tidiness is just more important to my wife than it is to 
> me.
>>
>> > Your last name stays put.  ..>  True, but I don't consider this a 
>> > bonus, and changing
> your name isn't mandatory, unless your husband has an exceptionally 
> fragile ego.
>>
>> > The garage is all yours. --> I've never had a garage, and, if I did, 
>> > 90% of the junk
> would be my wife's.
>> > Wedding plans take care of themselves.  The wife and I planned our 
>> > wedding equally.
>> > Chocolate is just another snack.  --> Chocolate doesn't stick to your 
>> > butt any more
> than
> it sticks to my gut.
>> > You can be President.  --> Too true.
>> > You can never be pregnant. --> Too true.
>> > You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. --> See the mention of my 
>> > gut, above.
>> > You can wear NO shirt to a water park.  --> See mention of my gut, 
>> > above.
>> > Car mechanics tell you the truth.  --. No, they don't.
>> > The world is your urinal.  --> Thank goodness!
>> > You never have to drive to another gas station restroom because this 
>> > one is just too
> icky. --> Neither do you.
>> > You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a 
>> > olt.  --> Yes, I do.
>>  > Same work, more pay. Too true.
>> > Wrinkles add character.  --> Too true.
>> > Wedding dress $5000.  -->  Wedding sress: $190 including shipping, 
>> > ordered from China
> off eBay.  There are no garments worth $5000, regardless of the occasion. 
> My car didn't
> cost as much as that.
>> > Tux rental-$100.  -->  Too true.
>>  > People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.  --> Too 
>> true.
>>  > New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet.  -->  They do if
>> I have deliberately selected stupid shoes.
>> > One mood all the time.  --> I have as many moods as I have socks, and I 
>> > have a lot of
> socks.
>> > Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat  --> I spend many, many 
>> > more hours on
> the phone than my wife.
>> > You know stuff about tanks.  --> I find tanks less interesting than 
>> > sports.
>> > A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase.  --> Both of my 
>> > daughters can travel
> for
> a month on a single backpack,. and my wife has finally learned that one 
> suitcase in enough
> for a holiday of virtually any duration.
>> > You can open all your own jars.  --> Too true.
>> > You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.  -->  Too 
>> > true.
>> > If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your 
>> > riend.  --> And they
> can
> still be yours, if they were truly your friend in the first place.
>> > Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack.  -->  Too true.
>> > Three pairs of shoes are more than enough.  --> As it is for anyone.
>> > You almost never have strap problems in public. --. Too true.
>> > You are unable to  see wrinkles in your clothes.  --.  Yes, I can.
>> > Everything on your face stays its original color.  --> No, it doesn't.
>> > The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.  --> Long hair is 
>> > always in style.
>> > You only have to shave your face and neck.  --> This is also true for 
>> > women who don't
> worry about fulfilling the fetishes of men.
>> > You can play with toys all your life.  --> Too true.
>> > One wallet and one pair of shoes -->  Also true for women, if they 
>> > want.
>> > one color for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs 
>> > look.  -->  Too
> true.
>> > You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. .  --> Nail parlor nails 
>> > are generally
> gross.
>> > You have freedom of choice concerning growing a mustache.  --> Too 
>> > true.
>> > You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 
>> > minutes.  --.  Too
> true.
>>
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