[Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq

Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 5 19:44:27 PDT 2009


The only reasonable response to that, Donovan, is "f*ck you".

Paul

Donovan Arnold wrote:
> Paul,
>  
> I don't see the French, Italians, Japanese, and Indians setting fire 
> to their woman and shooting gays legally do you?
>  
> No doubt, if you had a voice in 1942 you would be defending German 
> treatment of Jews.
>  
> Best Regards,
>  
> Donovan
>
> --- On *Sun, 4/5/09, Paul Rumelhart /<godshatter at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>     Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
>     To: vision2020 at moscow.com, "Donovan Arnold"
>     <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>     Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 2:11 PM
>
>     Is this limited to Iraq, or should we declare war on everything
>     that is non-American?
>
>     Paul
>
>     --- On *Sun, 4/5/09, Donovan Arnold
>     /<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>         From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>         Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
>         To: vision2020 at moscow.com, "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>         Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 12:39 PM
>
>         Paul,
>          
>         As a straight male, I am sure it is easy for you to dismiss
>         out of hand, the horrendous crimes against minorities and
>         woman in these societies and ignorantly try to compare them to
>         US standards, by suggesting I single handedly handle the
>         situation if I don't like it.
>          
>         But, you don't know what it is like to live everyday of your
>         life in total fear that someone is going to kill you, even or
>         especially, a family member or husband, If you did, you would
>         not be dismissing this so readily.
>          
>         People that defend this, and protect this, enable these people
>         to do this, and are just as guilty as those that do it.
>          
>         Best Regards,
>          
>         Donovan
>
>         --- On *Sun, 4/5/09, Paul Rumelhart /<godshatter at yahoo.com>/*
>         wrote:
>
>
>             From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>             Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
>             To: vision2020 at moscow.com, "Donovan Arnold"
>             <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>             Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 12:08 PM
>
>             George Bush grabbed a tiger by the tail, for no apparent
>             reason, and now he's handed it off to us.  This isn't
>             about "protecting their lifestyle".  It's about getting
>             the hell out of there and leaving them to their own
>             devices in as stable a way as possible. 
>
>             If it makes sense to you "wipe these societies out", then
>             I'd suggest getting yourself a weapon and heading for
>             Iraq.  Besides, it's not like no one has ever died in this
>             country for the crime of being gay.
>
>             Paul
>
>             --- On *Sun, 4/5/09, Donovan Arnold
>             /<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>                 From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>                 Subject: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
>                 To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>                 Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 11:56 AM
>
>                 I want to know, from some of these liberals that want
>                 to protect the lifestyle of the Middle Eastern
>                 Nations, how you think these societies should be
>                 allowed to exist where people kill members of their
>                 own family, simply because of their sexual
>                 orientation. And not just kill them, but premeditated
>                 massacres.
>                  
>                 Afghanistan is voting on a bill that legalizes men to
>                 be able to rape their wives, and these are supposedly
>                 the "good people" in these societies.
>                 Pakistan's ruling Taliban set their women on fire for
>                 disobeying Muslim law, or their Husband. The Middle
>                 East forces woman to marry men they do not know, love,
>                 or even like.
>                  
>                 Doesn't it make since to wipe these societies out?
>                 Eliminate them while they are still small in size and
>                 limited in power? How many millennium must pass before
>                 woman, gays, lesbians, and those that are a
>                 little different stop being set on fire and shot
>                 before the world says, "ENOUGH! evolve already, of or
>                 we will destroy your Neanderthal cave man thinking
>                 society."?
>                  
>                  
>                 *BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN)* -- Six gay men were shot dead by
>                 members of their tribe in two separate incidents in
>                 the past 10 days, an official with Iraq's Interior
>                 ministry said.
>                  
>                 http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/05/gay.deaths.iraq/index.html
>
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