[Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Oba

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Tue Sep 30 19:22:18 PDT 2008


"Do the people on this list really want their children singing the praises of Obama?"

No.

My only hope is that when they engage in public debate, they'd be courageous enough, honest enough, to use their real names.

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/


> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:50:24 -0700
> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Oba
> 
> I am another one of Barrack Hussein Obama's long-lost brothers but my
> head's not as round and beautiful as George's.
> 
> Now let's all hold hands and sing of he who was sent to bring change:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0xr06qA
> 
> "We're gonna spread happiness
> We're gonna spread freedom
> Obama's gonna change it
> Obama's gonna lead 'em
> 
> "We're gonna change it
> And rearrange it
> We're gonna change the world."
> 
> Do the people on this list really want their children singing the
> praises of Obama?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/30/08, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Hey, when are you going to tell the whole forum who you are?
> >
> > Still waiting,
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:50:43 -0700
> > > From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obam
> > >
> > > Carl,
> > >
> > > Normally your dry wit makes me laugh but in this instance you have
> > > merely advanced an abusive ad hominem argument predicated on an
> > > assumption that everyone knows what you're talking about or that they
> > > agree with you.
> > >
> > > However, since I do not know what you're talking about and therefore
> > > do not agree with you, can you please inform me, as well as this
> > > forum, what it is about the governor of the great state of Alaska that
> > > makes you display so much disdain for her that you kid she's an alien?
> > > It's not as though she thinks Alaska is the 58th state of the Union,
> > > contra Obama:
> > >
> > >
> > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html
> > >
> > > And it's not as though she asked a wheelchair-bound man to stand up,
> > > contra Biden:
> > >
> > >
> > http://news.spreadit.org/biden-wheelchairchuck-graham-biden-stand-up-video/
> > >
> > > And just in case you think I'm not ready for your answer, I've already
> > > put on my Weather Underground helmet to make sure you and I can
> > > channel each other in the process.
> > >
> > > Weather Underground helmet:
> > >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WEATHERUNDERGROUND3.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/30/08, Carl Westberg <idahovandal1 at live.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, if dual citizenship is a problem, how about Sarah Heath (that's a
> > > > suspicious sounding middle name, sounds vaguely British) Palin? As far
> > as I
> > > > can ascertain, she's a citizen of the United States and, oh, I don't
> > > > know....Saturn? Carl Westberg Jr.
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:51:49 -0700
> > > >
> > > > > From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > > > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obam
> > > > >
> > > > > Sunil,
> > > > >
> > > > > Apologies for the late reply; it's a gmail thing. Just because I am a
> > > > > brilliant Obamaologist doesn't mean that I can figure out gmail's
> > > > > inbox.
> > > > >
> > > > > The legitimate question involves divided loyalties — the Second
> > > > > Amendment requires the POTUS to be a natural born citizen and contra
> > > > > Tom, NBC does not mean born on American soil, which I'm sure you know.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dual citizenship creates a conflict of interest — or dual loyalties.
> > > > > The framers of the Constitution required the POTUS to be a NBC to
> > > > > guarantee that a subject of the British monarchy (or any other
> > > > > possible threat) didn't hijack the executive branch. Either that or
> > > > > they were prejudiced against non-Americans.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/26/08, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What legitimate questions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And who are you?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sunil
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:32:21 -0600
> > > > > > > From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > > > > > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obama
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tom,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My grasp of history is just fine, thank you. I wish I could say
> > the
> > > > > > > same for your grasp of the US Constitution.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > According to Obama's website:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya
> > was
> > > > > > > a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom's dwindling
> > empire.
> > > > > > > As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose
> > > > > > > citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of
> > > > > > > 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor
> > sworn
> > > > > > > an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship
> > automatically
> > > > > > > expired on Aug. 4,1982."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This testimony raises legitimate questions about dual citizenship
> > > > > > > which would preclude Barrack Hussein Obama from running for
> > president,
> > > > > > > not to mention his citizenship in Indonesia.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And it's interesting that you mention the "nifty fifty." According
> > to
> > > > > > > Barrack Hussein Obama there's 58 states in the Union:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That would be the 57 states he visited plus Alaska, assuming he
> > knew
> > > > > > > Alaska was a state.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Keely, I have no idea what your point is, or if you made one.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > No -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You apparently are struggling with history.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No stated:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Obama's background is so vague that one US citizen has sought a
> > > > > > > > declaratory judgement against him because he has not established
> > his
> > > > > > > > qualification as a US citizen to run for president:"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No, No. You are wrong. See . . .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/63qw47
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Barack Obama was born in Hawaii subsequent to July 4, 1959 (the
> > date
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > Hawaii became our 50th state)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > McCain, on the other hand, was NOT born in any of the Nifty
> > Fifty.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hmmm.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Tom Hansen
> > > > > > > > Moscow, Idaho
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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