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"Do the people on this list really want their children singing the praises of Obama?"<br><br>No.<br><br>My only hope is that when they engage in public debate, they'd be courageous enough, honest enough, to use their real names.<br><br>Keely<br>http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<br><br><br>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:50:24 -0700<br>> From: no.weatherman@gmail.com<br>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Oba<br>> <br>> I am another one of Barrack Hussein Obama's long-lost brothers but my<br>> head's not as round and beautiful as George's.<br>> <br>> Now let's all hold hands and sing of he who was sent to bring change:<br>> <br>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0xr06qA<br>> <br>> "We're gonna spread happiness<br>> We're gonna spread freedom<br>> Obama's gonna change it<br>> Obama's gonna lead 'em<br>> <br>> "We're gonna change it<br>> And rearrange it<br>> We're gonna change the world."<br>> <br>> Do the people on this list really want their children singing the<br>> praises of Obama?<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On 9/30/08, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Hey, when are you going to tell the whole forum who you are?<br>> ><br>> > Still waiting,<br>> ><br>> > Sunil<br>> ><br>> > > Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:50:43 -0700<br>> > > From: no.weatherman@gmail.com<br>> > > To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obam<br>> > ><br>> > > Carl,<br>> > ><br>> > > Normally your dry wit makes me laugh but in this instance you have<br>> > > merely advanced an abusive ad hominem argument predicated on an<br>> > > assumption that everyone knows what you're talking about or that they<br>> > > agree with you.<br>> > ><br>> > > However, since I do not know what you're talking about and therefore<br>> > > do not agree with you, can you please inform me, as well as this<br>> > > forum, what it is about the governor of the great state of Alaska that<br>> > > makes you display so much disdain for her that you kid she's an alien?<br>> > > It's not as though she thinks Alaska is the 58th state of the Union,<br>> > > contra Obama:<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html<br>> > ><br>> > > And it's not as though she asked a wheelchair-bound man to stand up,<br>> > > contra Biden:<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > http://news.spreadit.org/biden-wheelchairchuck-graham-biden-stand-up-video/<br>> > ><br>> > > And just in case you think I'm not ready for your answer, I've already<br>> > > put on my Weather Underground helmet to make sure you and I can<br>> > > channel each other in the process.<br>> > ><br>> > > Weather Underground helmet:<br>> > ><br>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WEATHERUNDERGROUND3.jpg<br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > ><br>> > > On 9/30/08, Carl Westberg <idahovandal1@live.com> wrote:<br>> > > ><br>> > > > Well, if dual citizenship is a problem, how about Sarah Heath (that's a<br>> > > > suspicious sounding middle name, sounds vaguely British) Palin? As far<br>> > as I<br>> > > > can ascertain, she's a citizen of the United States and, oh, I don't<br>> > > > know....Saturn? Carl Westberg Jr.<br>> > > ><br>> > > > > Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:51:49 -0700<br>> > > ><br>> > > > > From: no.weatherman@gmail.com<br>> > > > > To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obam<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > Sunil,<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > Apologies for the late reply; it's a gmail thing. Just because I am a<br>> > > > > brilliant Obamaologist doesn't mean that I can figure out gmail's<br>> > > > > inbox.<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > The legitimate question involves divided loyalties — the Second<br>> > > > > Amendment requires the POTUS to be a natural born citizen and contra<br>> > > > > Tom, NBC does not mean born on American soil, which I'm sure you know.<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > Dual citizenship creates a conflict of interest — or dual loyalties.<br>> > > > > The framers of the Constitution required the POTUS to be a NBC to<br>> > > > > guarantee that a subject of the British monarchy (or any other<br>> > > > > possible threat) didn't hijack the executive branch. Either that or<br>> > > > > they were prejudiced against non-Americans.<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > On 9/26/08, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > > What legitimate questions?<br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > > And who are you?<br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > > Sunil<br>> > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:32:21 -0600<br>> > > > > > > From: no.weatherman@gmail.com<br>> > > > > > > To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obama<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > Tom,<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > My grasp of history is just fine, thank you. I wish I could say<br>> > the<br>> > > > > > > same for your grasp of the US Constitution.<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > According to Obama's website:<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > "When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya<br>> > was<br>> > > > > > > a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom's dwindling<br>> > empire.<br>> > > > > > > As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose<br>> > > > > > > citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of<br>> > > > > > > 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children.<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor<br>> > sworn<br>> > > > > > > an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship<br>> > automatically<br>> > > > > > > expired on Aug. 4,1982."<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> > http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > This testimony raises legitimate questions about dual citizenship<br>> > > > > > > which would preclude Barrack Hussein Obama from running for<br>> > president,<br>> > > > > > > not to mention his citizenship in Indonesia.<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > And it's interesting that you mention the "nifty fifty." According<br>> > to<br>> > > > > > > Barrack Hussein Obama there's 58 states in the Union:<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > ><br>> > > ><br>> > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > That would be the 57 states he visited plus Alaska, assuming he<br>> > knew<br>> > > > > > > Alaska was a state.<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > Keely, I have no idea what your point is, or if you made one.<br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen@moscow.com><br>> > > > wrote:<br>> > > > > > > > No -<br>> > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > You apparently are struggling with history.<br>> > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > No stated:<br>> > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > "Obama's background is so vague that one US citizen has sought a<br>> > > > > > > > declaratory judgement against him because he has not established<br>> > his<br>> > > > > > > > qualification as a US citizen to run for president:"<br>> > > > > > > ><br>> > > > > > > > No, No. You are wrong. 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