[Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obama

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Donovan
When you blow up building it is implicit that people may be killed. He was lucky.
Roger
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From: Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:38:59 -0700
To: Andreas Schou ophite at gmail.com,  vision2020 vision2020 at moscow.com, "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obama

> Gary,
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> Ayers never attempted to kill anybody. That is why he never killed anyone. If you have evidence to the contrary, lets hear it. 
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> Best Regards,
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> Donovan
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> --- On Thu, 9/18/08, g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
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> From: g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obama
> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>, "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 5:45 AM
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> Read what I wrote. I did not claim that he killed anyone. I said that the act of setting off explosives wrapped in nails in public places is akin to attempted murder. If I light your apartment building on fire and, by the grace of God, no one is injured or killed am I mearly guilty of failure to obtain a permit for an open burn?
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> g
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Donovan Arnold 
> To: Andreas Schou ; vision2020 ; g. crabtree 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obama
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> Gary,
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> I don't condone the actions of Ayers. But he never killed anyone. To say he did is an incorrect statement. If you can demonstrate to me (an online article etc.) he killed someone, I will accept your statement as fact. Otherwise, I say your judgment and understanding on this matter is deeply in question. 
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> Best Regards,
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> Donovan
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> --- On Wed, 9/17/08, g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
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> From: g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obama
> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>, "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 5:30 AM
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> "Are you insinuating that Bill Ayers tried to kill people?"
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> No, I am not insinuating I am saying it flat out. Placing anti personnel bombs in public places is attempted murder. When the vermin in Baghdad or Sader City or Fallujah set of IED's they don't know the names of those they are attempting to murder and maim. Is it your contention that they are not trying to kill people?
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> g
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Donovan Arnold 
> To: Andreas Schou ; vision2020 ; g. crabtree 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obama
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> "No small accomplishment. Oh yeah, he has never attempted to slaughter soldiers and police via the cowardly practice of hiding and detonating explosives wrapped in nails."
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> Are you insinuating that Bill Ayers tried to kill people? I am no fan of Ayers. But I think you are off base saying he killed, or even attempted to kill people. If you think this, please provide us with the names of people Ayers attempted to kill, or who he killed. 
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> The people that McCain worked for between 1979 and 1992 harmed more people than Ayers. 
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> Best Regards,
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> Donovan
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> --- On Tue, 9/16/08, g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
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> From: g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obama
> To: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>, "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 7:24 PM
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> So what's your problem with the G-Man? The guy did his time in anything but 
> country club conditions until your hero, James Earl Carter, commuted his 
> sentence. He never ratted out his associates and he's managed to support 
> himself and his family as an ex-con. No small accomplishment. Oh yeah, he 
> has never attempted to slaughter soldiers and police via the cowardly 
> practice of hiding and detonating explosives wrapped in nails. All things 
> considered, I know that I would much rather associate with a man who served 
> his time and was released from prison than an unrepentant attempted murderer 
> whose only regret is that he couldn't cause more carnage and mayhem. Of 
> course that's just me.
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> g
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
> To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:32 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obama
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> > They both knew each other. They were both appointed to co-chair an
> > education panel by Mayor Daley, and the prior state Senator from
> > Obama's seat introduced him at Bill Ayers' house. No large,
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> > connection. But here's the thing:
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> > Why isn't John McCain's friendship with G. Gordon Liddy a campaign
> > issue? Is there any defensible reason for treating Liddy like a
> > rehabilitated member of the community, rather than as a threat to the
> > Republic? If so, why?
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> > -- ACS
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