[Vision2020] Citing Primary Sources via Secondary Sources

Jeff Harkins jeffh at moscow.com
Thu Sep 18 23:14:22 PDT 2008


Nick,

After you review the Terms of Use for the McClachy site, you may want 
to rethink your position.

Plagiarism is not restricted to academic settings and YOU KNOW 
THAT.  Review Joe Biden's history with plagiarizing Kinnoch's speech 
during his previous run for President.

I am done with this.  You are not interested in helping this young 
man learn how to use other's intellectual property.  You are just 
trying to harass me.  It's not working. Besides, I am going to engage 
in source research for a few days - ancient journals and ledgers.

At 11:40 AM 9/18/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Jeff,
>
>I know all about on-line plagiarism and I used special search 
>programs to catch some of my dishonest students.  This was in an 
>academic setting.
>
>Andreas is not your student, or Joe's, or mine.  As Joe said, he did 
>not have an assignment from us.  He did not write this for his law 
>school studies.  The Law School Honor code does not apply on this list.
>
>This is not plagiarism and you know it.
>
>Nick
>>Nick,
>>
>>I provided the link to the Law School Honor Code for two reasons:
>>
>>1. So that Shoue would know what his obligations were, with respect 
>>to law studies, so he would not make the same mistake again.
>>
>>2. It was a convenient local application of the standards of 
>>plagiarism for those that are not familiar with.
>>
>>It is clear that you and Campbell need a refresher course on 
>>plagiarism.  It is very surprising to me that both of you are 
>>failing to recognize that the person injured here was the author of 
>>the source that Schoe failed to cite.
>>
>>Can I presume that the standards of plagiarism are lower for 
>>philosophy writings.  I am very surprised that an 
>>Ethics  instructor would not see the issue here.
>>
>>This event can be classified as "online plagiarism".  Wikipedia 
>>offers a comprehensive explanation:
>>
>>[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism]
>>
>>Online plagiarism
>>
>>
>>
>>Since it is very easy to steal content from the web by simply 
>>copying and pasting, the problem of online plagiarism is growing. 
>>[<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed> 
>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed>citation 
>>needed] This phenomenon, also known as content scraping, is 
>>affecting both established sites [3] and blogs [4].
>>Free online tools are becoming available to help identify 
>>plagiarism [5], and there is a range of approaches that attempt to 
>>limit online copying, such as disabling 
>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/Right-click#Common_mouse_operations>right 
>>clicking and placing warning banners regarding copyrights on web 
>>pages. Instances of plagiarism that involve copyright violation may 
>>be addressed by the rightful content owners sending a 
>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/DMCA>DMCA removal notice to the 
>>offending site-owner, or to the 
>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/ISP>ISP that is hosting the 
>>offending site.
>>It is important to reiterate that plagiarism is not the mere 
>>copying of text, but the presentation of another's ideas as one's 
>>own, regardless of the specific words or constructs used to express 
>>that idea. In contrast, many so-called plagiarism detection 
>>services can only detect blatant word-for-word copies of text.
>>The cite that Schoe indicated he obtained his info from has very 
>>clear policies about use of the material obtained from the cite. 
>>One of those is to provide a citation for the author of the material.
>>
>>I have provided all the links. Check it out or not - I don't really care.
>>
>>
>
>"Truth is the summit of being; justice is the application of it to 
>human affairs."
>--Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
>"Abstract truth has no value unless it incarnates in human beings 
>who represent it, by proving their readiness to die for it."
>  --Mohandas Gandhi
>
>"Modern physics has taught us that the nature of any system cannot 
>be discovered by dividing it into its component parts and studying 
>each part by itself. . . .We must keep our attention fixed on the 
>whole and on the interconnection between the parts. The same is true 
>of our intellectual life. It is impossible to make a clear cut 
>between science, religion, and art. The whole is never equal simply 
>to the sum of its various parts." --Max Planck
>
>Nicholas F. Gier
>Professor Emeritus, Department of Philosophy, University of Idaho
>1037 Colt Rd., Moscow, ID 83843
>http://www.home.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/home.htm
>208-882-9212/FAX 885-8950
>President, Idaho Federation of Teachers, AFL-CIO
>http://www.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/ift.htm
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