[Vision2020] Palin and library books
Jeff Harkins
jeffh at moscow.com
Tue Sep 9 15:23:25 PDT 2008
Well, fortunately, the issue is being
investigated, ad nauseum, and I am sure we will
have a rather clear picture of what actually
happened. Is was reported today that the
Municipal Library had initiated (at the time of
the incident) a revision of the then stated "book
challenge" policies. Perhaps a citizen wanted to
be sure that the library was pursuing
"acceptable" challenge policies. It could very
well be that Palin intervened to be more informed
about the issue before it became divisive.
I have seen no evidence that she is scrambling to
cover her tracks. Do you have some?
What is clear (from the AK Main Library
Association) no books have been banned.
Wouldn't you want your elected officials to be
fully informed about proposed policies from a
department they were responsible for.
You, somewhat sanctimoniously, declare:
of great interest and concern to me is that
banning books was a topic in which Palin had any
interest and tells me a great deal about her.
What exactly does it tell you? Are there no
books that should be taken off the shelf?
It seems ever more clear to me that you would go
to almost any length to discredit Gov.
Palin. You know, it is one thing to conclude how
you intend to vote - you do get one vote, just
like the rest of us. It is quite another to
engage in the kind of destructive dialogue that
you are pandering on this engaging and successful
candidate - presumably with the intent of
persuading others to vote for your candidate.
For example, rather than speculate about Gov.
Palin's intent and involvement in the book ban
issue, why don't you simply make your case to the
appropriate AK officials and then wait for the investigation.
Same line of thinking applies to the expense
reimbursements. From the AK press, it is evident
that the fiscal affairs folks in AK government
are reviewing those expenses. Wait for their
report, then read and disseminate their findings.
Your "sky is falling" strategy is boorish and painful.
OTOH - I could encourage you to continue your
"unfounded assertions" outbursts. It does seem
that the more the left uses this tactic to attack
Gov. Palin, the more folks show their support for her.
In the meanwhile, try picking an issue - say
economic development and see how she has
performed as a Mayor and a Governor in that
realm. Lots of facts about that one.
Anyway, I'm done. I will wait for the
appropriate officials to release their findings.
At 01:23 PM 9/9/2008, you wrote:
>Jeff Harkins wrote:
>Of course, you have overlooked the fact that it
>has been reported that a constituent (or group
>of constituents) had asked her what the
>procedure was for challenging the book
>inventory. As a proper role for an elected
>official, she researched the issue (with the
>librarian, as I am to understand) and informed
>the constituent of the procedure and protocol
>for challenging the book inventory.
>
>I think you must be confused, Jeff: what
>constituents? Theres nothing in the official
>record to support Palins explanation of her
>behavior, and not a single person came forward
>at the time (or since) to support Palins
>tale. Her claim is nothing more than wholly
>unsubstantiated rather than the fact you want us to believe.
>
>Now, if you want to start believing the claims
>of politicians scrambling to cover their tracks
>absent any proof, you go right ahead and do so
>and let us know how that works out for
>you. And, Im sure youll be objective about it
>and extend your folly to both sides of the aisle J
>
>Also, your above recounting of events is quite a
>bit different than all the accounts Ive read, so please cite your source.
>
>Further, Im surprised to know that you think
>informing make-believe constituents about how to
>pursue book banning is a legitimate role of an
>elected official. Im happy for the eye-opening
>information and will gratefully keep that in mind!
>
>Jeff Harkins also wrote:
>Cut to the chase - contact Kim Garnero, Alaska
>State Finance Director, whose responsibilities
>include expense reimbursement for state employees.
>
>Here you go:
>http://tinyurl.com/5nffv8
>Palin Billed State for Nights Spent at Home
>Taxpayers Also Funded Family's Travel
>By
><http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/email/james+v.+grimaldi+and+karl+vick/>James
>V. Grimaldi and Karl Vick
>Washington Post Staff Writers
>Tuesday, September 9, 2008; Page A01
>
>Asked Monday about the official policy on
>charging for children's travel expenses, Garnero
>said: "We cover the expenses of anyone who's
>conducting state business. I can't imagine kids could be doing that."
>
>However, the article also informs us:
>In separate filings, the state was billed about
>$25,000 for Palin's daughters' expenses and $19,000 for her husband's.
>Flights topped the list for the most expensive
>items, and the daughter whose bill was the
>highest was Piper, 7, whose flights cost nearly
>$11,000, while Willow, 14, claimed about $6,000
>and Bristol, 17, accounted for about $3,400.
>
>The article goes on to say:
>But Leighow said many of the hundreds of
>invitations Palin receives include requests for
>her to bring her family, placing the definition
>of "state business" with the party extending the invitation.
>
>To which a reasonable fiscally-minded person
>would maintain that those requesting the
>governor to bring her family be the ones to foot
>the bill, rather than the taxpayers. But, not
>Palin she seems to view her official duties
>as justification for her family members to take
>nifty vacations on the backs of hard-working
>taxpayers, something we should all keep in mind
>given that McCain has repeatedly said attending
>funerals is one of the VPs main duties.
>
>Perhaps Palin is against government pork and
>excess only when she & her family dont stand to
>personally benefit from them? For Palin, maybe
>its OK if you bilk we-the-people a little
>instead of a lot like her predecessor?
>
>Personally, I have a big problem with government
>paying for the travel expenses of our elected
>officials children to see the sights -- I dont
>think family fun trips should be paid by the
>taxpayers. But, Im just middle America J Im
>personally am eager to see the spin Palin
>supporters will use to try to explain this away
>. . . and to see precisely how far theyre
>willing to sell out their values to accommodate
>Palins blatant schizophrenic contradictions.
>
>
>Saundra Lund
>Moscow, ID
>
>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
>is for good people to do nothing.
>~ Edmund Burke
>
>***** Original material contained herein is
>Copyright 2008 through life plus 70 years,
>Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or
>reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without
>the express written permission of the author.*****
>
>From: Jeff Harkins [mailto:jeffh at moscow.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 10:08 AM
>To: Saundra Lund
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Palin and library books
>
>Of course, you have overlooked the fact that it
>has been reported that a constituent (or group
>of constituents) had asked her what the
>procedure was for challenging the book
>inventory. As a proper role for an elected
>official, she researched the issue (with the
>librarian, as I am to understand) and informed
>the constituent of the procedure and protocol
>for challenging the book inventory.
>
>What is a bit murky, the librarian - reportedly
>a democrat - chose to use the incident in a political move.
>
>Perhaps we will learn more about this.
>
> >From a cynical perspective, I do hope that the
> pundits, the democrats, the liberals, the far
> left and others continue to attack Gov Sarah
> Palin on family and personal issues. These
> petty attacks on her character, her religion,
> her children go a long way to raising her visibility with the voting public.
>
>Even the demo candidate Sen Obama has asked for
>the personal attacks to stop. That hasn't seemed
>to stop the tenor and vitriol of the
>attacks. Obama doesn't seem to have much control over those elements.
>
>Are the issues not relevant? Maybe we could
>talk about Biden's 3 sector plan for Iraq. How
>does Palin feel about that? Perhaps we could
>explore the VPs' positions on Fannie Mae and
>Freddie Mac. What about education - both
>candidates have a record of positions on education.
>
>Raise the bar, please. A recent post (by
>Hansen) insinuating that Palin was
>inappropriately using state funds for travel and
>overnight stays, and using her home for
>overnight reimbursement. This kind of
>penmanship terror should stop - Hansen should
>know better - his tactics are an insult to our
>locals . You folks are all better than this -
>and smart enough to ask penetrating and relevant questions.
>
>There are numerous articles and newsreports,
>fully researched, that would reveal the "real
>story" about Palin's expense
>reimbursements. Cut to the chase - contact Kim
>Garnero, Alaska State Finance Director, whose
>responsibilities include expense reimbursement for state employees.
>
>Thanks.
>
>t 04:16 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
>
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>While theres no doubt that Palin discussed (a
>discussion shes subsequently labeled
>rhetorical) banning books with the Citys
>librarian, the book list below canNOT be
>attributed to Palin. Its origins seems to be this:
><http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html>http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html
>
>The specific titles of books Palin was
>interested in banning is of no interest to me;
>of great interest and concern to me is that
>banning books was a topic in which Palin had any
>interest and tells me a great deal about her.
>
>
>Saundra Lund
>Moscow, ID
>
>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
>is for good people to do nothing.
>~ Edmund Burke
>
>***** Original material contained herein is
>Copyright 2008 through life plus 70 years,
>Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or
>reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without
>the express written permission of the author.*****
>
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