[Vision2020] Sarah Palin

Tue Sep 2 13:18:54 PDT 2008

Nick 
You misrepresent me. I think both parties should be held to the same standards. You are as guilty as anyone of only focusing on the sins of one side. 
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Nick Gier ngier at uidaho.edu
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:12:41 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sarah Palin

> Hi Roger,
> 
> As usual you duck the most important question, 
> which was why doesn't plagiarism and infidelity 
> disqualify  McCain?  What is good for the Dem 
> goose is also great for the GOP gander.
> 
> You can be serious in claiming that Palin has 
> more experience than Obama.  Twelve years 
> teaching constitutional law at the University of 
> Chicago and rejecting a tenure track position so 
> that he could commit himself to public service. 
> (Knowledge of the Constitution in the highest 
> office is sorely needed right now.) Eight years 
> in the Illinois Senate and a solid record, voting 
> far more often than McCain, as a freshman senator.
> 
> Defending Palin as qualified to be V-P is 
> grasping at straws.  I'm afraid, Roger, that you 
> have indeed drunk the McCain/Palin coolaid.
> 
> Nick
> At 11:04 AM 9/2/2008, you wrote:
> >Nick I dont agree with all of Palin's positions, 
> >but then I dont agree any of them all the time. 
> >I haven't drank the Kool aid of the anointed one 
> >or John McCain. On the whole though your list 
> >sounds like pretty good credentials to me. As 
> >for experience she has more of it than Obama and 
> >she is second on the ticket not first. Roger 
> >-----Original message----- From: 
> >nickgier at adelphia.net Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 
> >14:32:49 -0700 To: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com 
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sarah Palin > 
> >Greetings: > > Here are some documented facts 
> >about Sarah Palin distributed this morning by 
> >MoveOn.Org, followed by some comments from her 
> >fellow Alaskans. > > Who is Sarah Palin? Here's 
> >some basic background: > > She was elected 
> >Alaska's governor a little over a year and a 
> >half ago. Her previous office was mayor of 
> >Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage. She has 
> >no foreign policy experience.1 > > Palin is 
> >strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in 
> >the case of rape or incest.2 > > She supported 
> >right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president 
> >in 2000. 3 > > Palin thinks creationism should 
> >be taught in public schools.4 > > She's doesn't 
> >think humans are the cause of climate 
> >change.5 > > She's solidly in line with John 
> >McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's 
> >pushed hard for more oil drilling and says 
> >renewables won't be ready for years. She also 
> >sued the Bush administration for listing polar 
> >bears as an endangered species—she was worried 
> >it woould interfere with more oil drilling in 
> >Alaska.6 > > How closely did John McCain vet 
> >this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a 
> >meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, 
> >when he called her about being vice-president. 
> >Then he offered her the position.7 > > "She is 
> >really just a mayor from a small town outside 
> >Anchorage who has been a governor for only 1.5 
> >years, and has ZERO national and international 
> >experience. I shudder to think that she could be 
> >the person taking that 3AM call on the White 
> >House hotline, and the one who could potentially 
> >be charged with leading the US in the volatile 
> >international scene that exists today." —Rose 
> >M., Fairbanks, AK > > "She is VEERY, VERY 
> >conservative, and far from perfect. She's a 
> >hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the 
> >environment again and again. She ran on ethics 
> >reform, but is currently under investigation for 
> >several charges involving hiring and firing of 
> >state officials. She has NO experience beyond 
> >Alaska." —Christine B., Denali Park, AK > > "As 
> >an  Alaskan and a feminist, I am beyond words at 
> >this announcement. Palin is not a feminist, and 
> >she is not the reformer she claims to be." 
> >—Karen L., Anchorage, AK > > "Allaskans, 
> >collectively, are just as stunned as the rest of 
> >the nation. She is doing well running our State, 
> >but is totally inexperienced on the national 
> >level, and very much unequipped to run the 
> >nation, if it came to that. She is as far right 
> >as one can get, which has already been 
> >communicated on the news. In our office of 
> >thirty employees (dems, republicans, and 
> >nonpartisans), not one person feels she is ready 
> >for the V.P. position."Sherry C., Anchorage, 
> >AK > > "She's vehemently anti-choice and doesn't 
> >care about protecting our natural resources, 
> >even though she has worked as a fisherman. 
> >McCain chose her to pick up the Hillary voters, 
> >but Palin is no Hillary." —Marina L.,, Juneau, 
> >AK > > "I think she's far too inexperienced to 
> >be in this position. I'm all for a woman in the 
> >White House, but not one who hasn't done 
> >anything to deserve it. There are far many other 
> >women who have worked their way up and have much 
> >more experience that would have been better 
> >choices. This is a patronizing decision on John 
> >McCain's part- and insulting to females 
> >everywhere that he would assume he'll get our 
> >vote by putting "A Woman" in that 
> >position."—Jennifer M., Anchorage, AK > > 
> >Sources: >  > 1. "Sarah Palin," Wikipedia, 
> >Accessed August 29, 2008 > 
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin > > 2. 
> >"McCain Selects Anti-Choice Sarah Palin as 
> >Running Mate," NARAL Pro-Choice America, August 
> >29, 2008 > 
> >http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17515&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=1  
> > > > 3. "Sarah Palin, Buchananite," The Nation, 
> >August 29, 2008 > 
> >http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17736&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=2  
> > > > 4. "'Creation science' enters the race," 
> >Anchorage Daily News, October 27, 2006 > 
> >http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17737&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=3  
> > > > 5. "Palin buys climate denial PR 
> >spin—ignores science," Huffington Poost, August 
> >29, 2008 > 
> >http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17517&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=4  
> > > > 6. "McCain VP Pick Completes Shift to Bush 
> >Energy Policy," Sierra Club, August 29, 2008 > 
> >http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17518&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=5  
> > > > "Choice of Palin Promises Failed Energy 
> >Policies of the Past," League of Conservation 
> >Voters, August 29, 2008 > 
> >http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17519&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=6  
> > > > "Protecting polar bears gets in way of 
> >drilling for oil, says governor," The Times of 
> >London, May 23, 2008 > 
> >http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17520&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=7  
> > > > 7 "McCain met Palin once before yesterday," 
> >MSNBC, August 29, 2008 > 
> >http://www.moveon.org/r?r=21119&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=8  
> > > > > 
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> 
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