[Vision2020] Sarah Palin

Nick Gier ngier at uidaho.edu
Tue Sep 2 11:12:41 PDT 2008


Hi Roger,

As usual you duck the most important question, 
which was why doesn't plagiarism and infidelity 
disqualify  McCain?  What is good for the Dem 
goose is also great for the GOP gander.

You can be serious in claiming that Palin has 
more experience than Obama.  Twelve years 
teaching constitutional law at the University of 
Chicago and rejecting a tenure track position so 
that he could commit himself to public service. 
(Knowledge of the Constitution in the highest 
office is sorely needed right now.) Eight years 
in the Illinois Senate and a solid record, voting 
far more often than McCain, as a freshman senator.

Defending Palin as qualified to be V-P is 
grasping at straws.  I'm afraid, Roger, that you 
have indeed drunk the McCain/Palin coolaid.

Nick
At 11:04 AM 9/2/2008, you wrote:
>Nick I dont agree with all of Palin's positions, 
>but then I dont agree any of them all the time. 
>I haven't drank the Kool aid of the anointed one 
>or John McCain. On the whole though your list 
>sounds like pretty good credentials to me. As 
>for experience she has more of it than Obama and 
>she is second on the ticket not first. Roger 
>-----Original message----- From: 
>nickgier at adelphia.net Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 
>14:32:49 -0700 To: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com 
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sarah Palin > 
>Greetings: > > Here are some documented facts 
>about Sarah Palin distributed this morning by 
>MoveOn.Org, followed by some comments from her 
>fellow Alaskans. > > Who is Sarah Palin? Here's 
>some basic background: > > She was elected 
>Alaska's governor a little over a year and a 
>half ago. Her previous office was mayor of 
>Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage. She has 
>no foreign policy experience.1 > > Palin is 
>strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in 
>the case of rape or incest.2 > > She supported 
>right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president 
>in 2000. 3 > > Palin thinks creationism should 
>be taught in public schools.4 > > She's doesn't 
>think humans are the cause of climate 
>change.5 > > She's solidly in line with John 
>McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's 
>pushed hard for more oil drilling and says 
>renewables won't be ready for years. She also 
>sued the Bush administration for listing polar 
>bears as an endangered species—she was worried 
>it woould interfere with more oil drilling in 
>Alaska.6 > > How closely did John McCain vet 
>this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a 
>meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, 
>when he called her about being vice-president. 
>Then he offered her the position.7 > > "She is 
>really just a mayor from a small town outside 
>Anchorage who has been a governor for only 1.5 
>years, and has ZERO national and international 
>experience. I shudder to think that she could be 
>the person taking that 3AM call on the White 
>House hotline, and the one who could potentially 
>be charged with leading the US in the volatile 
>international scene that exists today." —Rose 
>M., Fairbanks, AK > > "She is VEERY, VERY 
>conservative, and far from perfect. She's a 
>hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the 
>environment again and again. She ran on ethics 
>reform, but is currently under investigation for 
>several charges involving hiring and firing of 
>state officials. She has NO experience beyond 
>Alaska." —Christine B., Denali Park, AK > > "As 
>an  Alaskan and a feminist, I am beyond words at 
>this announcement. Palin is not a feminist, and 
>she is not the reformer she claims to be." 
>—Karen L., Anchorage, AK > > "Allaskans, 
>collectively, are just as stunned as the rest of 
>the nation. She is doing well running our State, 
>but is totally inexperienced on the national 
>level, and very much unequipped to run the 
>nation, if it came to that. She is as far right 
>as one can get, which has already been 
>communicated on the news. In our office of 
>thirty employees (dems, republicans, and 
>nonpartisans), not one person feels she is ready 
>for the V.P. position."Sherry C., Anchorage, 
>AK > > "She's vehemently anti-choice and doesn't 
>care about protecting our natural resources, 
>even though she has worked as a fisherman. 
>McCain chose her to pick up the Hillary voters, 
>but Palin is no Hillary." —Marina L.,, Juneau, 
>AK > > "I think she's far too inexperienced to 
>be in this position. I'm all for a woman in the 
>White House, but not one who hasn't done 
>anything to deserve it. There are far many other 
>women who have worked their way up and have much 
>more experience that would have been better 
>choices. This is a patronizing decision on John 
>McCain's part- and insulting to females 
>everywhere that he would assume he'll get our 
>vote by putting "A Woman" in that 
>position."—Jennifer M., Anchorage, AK > > 
>Sources: >  > 1. "Sarah Palin," Wikipedia, 
>Accessed August 29, 2008 > 
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin > > 2. 
>"McCain Selects Anti-Choice Sarah Palin as 
>Running Mate," NARAL Pro-Choice America, August 
>29, 2008 > 
>http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17515&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=1  
> > > 3. "Sarah Palin, Buchananite," The Nation, 
>August 29, 2008 > 
>http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17736&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=2  
> > > 4. "'Creation science' enters the race," 
>Anchorage Daily News, October 27, 2006 > 
>http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17737&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=3  
> > > 5. "Palin buys climate denial PR 
>spin—ignores science," Huffington Poost, August 
>29, 2008 > 
>http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17517&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=4  
> > > 6. "McCain VP Pick Completes Shift to Bush 
>Energy Policy," Sierra Club, August 29, 2008 > 
>http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17518&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=5  
> > > "Choice of Palin Promises Failed Energy 
>Policies of the Past," League of Conservation 
>Voters, August 29, 2008 > 
>http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17519&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=6  
> > > "Protecting polar bears gets in way of 
>drilling for oil, says governor," The Times of 
>London, May 23, 2008 > 
>http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17520&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=7  
> > > 7 "McCain met Palin once before yesterday," 
>MSNBC, August 29, 2008 > 
>http://www.moveon.org/r?r=21119&id=13661-1604964-_zATRdx&t=8  
> > > > 
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