[Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 28, Issue 457

Fri Oct 31 14:43:55 PDT 2008

Well, still holding my average level of 30 but played to 3020 grains of rice this time.  How bout you?!

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> From: vision2020-request at moscow.com> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 28, Issue 457> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:06:39 -0700> > Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to> vision2020 at moscow.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> vision2020-request at moscow.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> vision2020-owner at moscow.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: natural born Kenyan: Supremes asked to halt Tuesday's> vote (Donovan Arnold)> 2. Latah County Zoning Commission Regular Meeting for Wednesday,> November 5, 2008 (london at moscow.com)> 3. Re: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 28, Issue 456 (donald edwards)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:50:20 -0700 (PDT)> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] natural born Kenyan: Supremes asked to halt> Tuesday's vote> To: Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>, No Weatherman> <no.weatherman at gmail.com>> Message-ID: <713581.41518.qm at web38108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"> > Some of the best Presidents were born outside the states. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Monroe, Madison, and?Abraham Lincoln, for example. > ?> Best Regards,> ?> Donovan> ?> > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, No Weatherman <no.weatherman at gmail.com> wrote:> > From: No Weatherman <no.weatherman at gmail.com>> Subject: [Vision2020] natural born Kenyan: Supremes asked to halt Tuesday's vote> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>> Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 7:30 AM> > Supremes asked to halt Tuesday's vote> Constitutional crisis feared over Obama's 'qualifications'> > The U.S. Supreme Court is being asked to help the nation avoid a> constitutional crisis by halting Tuesday's election until Democratic> presidential nominee Barack Obama documents his eligibility to run for> the top office in the nation.> > Democratic attorney Philip Berg had filed a lawsuit alleging Obama is> ineligible to be president because of possible birth in Kenya, but as> WND reported, a federal judge dismissed the complaint claiming Berg> lacks standing to bring the action.> > The 34-page memorandum that accompanied the court order from Judge R.> Barclay Surrick concluded ordinary citizens can't sue to ensure that a> presidential candidate actually meets the constitutional requirements> of the office.> > Instead, Surrick said Congress could determine "that citizens, voters,> or party members should police the Constitution's eligibility> requirements for the Presidency," but that it would take new laws to> grant individual citizens that ability.> > "Until that time," Surrick says, "voters do not have standing to> bring> the sort of challenge that Plaintiff attempts to bring."> > Berg has maintained that uncertainty about how the U.S. does enforce> the requirements of presidency may result in a constitutional crisis> should an ineligible candidate win the office.> > In a statement today, Berg said he is applying to Justice David Souter> for an "Immediate Injunction to Stay the Presidential Election of> November 4, 2008."> > "I am hopeful that the U.S. Supreme Court will grant the injunction> pending a review of this case to avoid a constitutional crisis by> insisting that Obama produce certified documentation that he is or is> not a "natural born" citizen and if he cannot produce documentation> that Obama be removed from the ballot for president," Berg said.> > "We must legally prevent Obama, the unqualified candidate, from taking> the office of the presidency of the United States," Berg said.> > The issue of Obama's eligibility first got traction among Internet> bloggers and later was heightened when several campaigns were launched> to determine whether a "certificate of live birth" posted on the> Internet by the Obama campaign was valid.> > The issue gained more attention when Berg told radio talk show icon> Michael Savage he had an admission from Obama's grandmather that she> was at his birth ? in Kenya.> > "This is a question of who has standing to stand up for our> Constitution," Berg told Jeff Schreiber of America's Right blog.> "If I> don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor> doesn't have standing to ask whether or not the likely next president> of the United States ? the most powerful man in the entire world ? is> eligible to be in that office in the first place, then who does?"> > As WND reported, Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court in August,> alleging Obama is not a natural-born citizen and is thus ineligible to> serve as president of the United States. Berg demanded that Obama> provide documentation to the court to verify that the candidate was> born in Hawaii, as Obama contends, and not in Kenya, as Berg believes.> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79519> > =======================================================> List services made available by First Step Internet, > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > http://www.fsr.net > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================> > > > > -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20081031/1765c1d7/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:00:08 -0700> From: london at moscow.com> Subject: [Vision2020] Latah County Zoning Commission Regular Meeting> for Wednesday, November 5, 2008> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Message-ID: <4B5A4D3452A143748384FD2544162647 at latah.id.us>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > The Latah County Zoning Commission Regular Meeting agenda for November 5,> 2008 has been posted to the following website: http://www.latah.id.us/pzc/> > Drew Blankenbaker> Associate Planner> Latah County Planning and Building Dept.> 208-883-7220> > dblankenbaker at latah.id.us> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:06:41 -0700> From: donald edwards <donaledwards at hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 28, Issue 456> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>> Message-ID: <BAY142-W1503A15091FA9741D6616CD5200 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > http://think.mtv.com/Issues/politics/> > Please visit this site to learn about (and hopefully sign) a petition that will tell whomever wins the election that our vets are important and need increased benefits and care. I tried to upload a short video about what this group is asking for but only got a notice that it "awaits moderator approval". Ask me offlist if you'd like to see it and I'll reply with a Windows Media file attachment.> > Happy Halloween and remember to set back the clocks tomorrow before bed!> > > From: vision2020-request at moscow.com> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 28, Issue 456> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:37:38 -0700> > Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to> vision2020 at moscow.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> vision2020-request at moscow.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> vision2020-owner at moscow.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Sali on Top of Things <snort> (was Ex-UI Researcher Faces> Deportation) (Donovan Arnold)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:37:38 -0700 (PDT)> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sali on Top of Things <snort> (wa!> s Ex-UI> Researcher Faces Deportation)> To: vision2020 at moscow.com, Saundra Lund <sslund_2007 at verizon.net>> Message-ID: <886229.67887.qm at web38104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"> > Saundra,> ?> So you only share your scorn for those that don't respond to you?with a timely canned response by name?> ?> What other US Congressman have you written, and what were their responses, and what was the response time?> ?> Also, do you know for fact that Sali didn't have more important issues?from other?constituents to address that were in his control, over that of your concerns which he had no control over?> ?> Best Regards,> ?> Donovan> ?> > > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Saundra Lund <sslund_2007 at verizon.net> wrote:> > From: Saundra Lund <sslund_2007 at verizon.net>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Sali on Top of Things <snort> (was Ex-UI Researcher Faces Deportation)> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, vision2020 at moscow.com> Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 12:14 P!> M> > > > > > > > > You?re welcome to your opinion, but I?ll add that in all the letters I?ve written, never has it taken an elected official nearly three months to respond.? That?s unacceptable to me ? and it?s a good thing his quick action wasn?t needed to protect her from the lunacy of being deported over the stupidity of the issue, which would have been a great loss for the entire state and nation.? We all would have been SOL had timely action by Sali been what would have saved the day.> ?> I?ve gotten my share of canned <g> responses as well, but they?ve always been timely? J? > ?> And, on this issue, I received more substantive responses from the other elected officials I contacted within about two weeks.? They took the matter seriously and responded in a timely manner, unlike Sali.> ?> ?> Saundra Lund> Moscow, ID> ?> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.> ~ Edmund Burke> ?> > From: Donovan Arnold [mailto:donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 12:02 PM> To: vision2020 at mo!> scow.com; Saundra Lund> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sali on Top of Things <snort> (was Ex-UI Researcher Faces Deportation)> ?> > > > > > I am not?fond of many of Sali's votes and positions on issues. But I would not bash a US member of Congress that actually responded to my letter or email with something other than a canned response.> > ?> > It is clear to me that Sali and/or his staff actually took the time and effort to research, find out the facts, and individualize their response to your letter so that they could?provide information that was accurate.> > ?> > I would be shocked to get such a response. As 90% of the time I write a government official I get a letter back that is either a canned general response, doesn't address what I was asking, or I never get a response at all. > > ?> > August of an election year, is in all honestly, the worst time to write a politician as that is when they are trying to keep their jobs and must attend 1000s of events?to keep up with camp!> aign costs.> > ?> > It would be nice if our represenatatives could? drop every thing, and respond to each request of them right away, but they are no doubt only human, and can only do what they can do. They have 650,000 people to watch out for, many?writing them with letters, emails, requests, and demands, this is on top of their regular work as a member of Congress.> > ?> > ?> > Best Regards,> > ?> > Donovan> > ?> > > > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Saundra Lund <sslund_2007 at verizon.net> wrote:> > From: Saundra Lund <sslund_2007 at verizon.net>> Subject: [Vision2020] Sali on Top of Things <snort> (was Ex-UI Researcher Faces Deportation)> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 9:20 AM> > > Visionaries:> ?> I don?t know if y?all remember the ?Ex-UI Researcher Faces Deportation? thread we had in early August ? I think Tom originally brought the lunacy to our attention, and then Roger suggested we all write our elected representatives.> ?> We wrote Sali on 8/5/2008 ? below please see the response we received today, nearly three months af!> ter contacting his office.? There?s nothing like prompt attention to constituent concerns!> ?> I expect a more timely response when I contact my elected officials; Sali will not be getting my vote on Tuesday.> ?> ?> Saundra Lund> Moscow, ID> ?> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing.> ~ Edmund Burke> ?> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2008 through life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund.? Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the author.*****> ?> > > From: Congressman Bill Sali [mailto:id01ima at mail.house.gov] > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:01 AM> To: > Subject: Reply from Congressman Bill Sali> ?> ?> October 31, 2008> ?> ?> Dear Dr. & Ms. Lund:> ?> Thank you for contacting me regarding? University of? Idaho researcher?Katarzyna?Dziewanowska.? I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts on this important issue.> ?> As you may!> know, Ms.?Dziewanowska is a Polish scientist who was recruited by the? University of? Idaho to conduct research on plant breeding.? Over her 14 years of research, she has made significant scientific contributions to her field.> ?> Over the years, Ms.?Dziewanowska has made a good-faith effort to become a permanent resident of the? United States .? She initially applied for temporary work permits and was granted the first one, but the second one was delayed because of problems with the photo she submitted.> ?> Although her first permit expired, she continued working, believing there was a grace period on temporary work permits.? However, immigration officials citied that breach in denying her application for permanent residency in June.> ?> Ms.?Dziewanowska has the right to appeal the decision on her residency status to an immigration judge.? Please be assured I aware of this issue.? In fact I have inquired specifically on this matter and will continue to ask questions, and closely monitor any developments in this matter.> ?> More information o!> n granting permanent residence to foreign nationals based?upon employment can be found on the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services website at?http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis.> ?> Thank you again for contacting me.? It is an honor to serve as your member of Congress, and I hope you will continue to share your views on the important issues facing our country.? For more information and updates on my work in Congress, please visit my website,?www.sali.house.gov.> ?> ?> ?> > ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Sincerely, > ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Bill Sali> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????Member of Congress> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ?=============================================!> ========== List services made available by First Step Internet, ?serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.?? ???????????????http://www.fsr.net?????????????????????? ??????????mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com=======================================================> ?> > > > -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20081031/42534dca/attachment.html > > ------------------------------> > =======================================================> List services made available by First Step Internet, > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > http://www.fsr.net > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================> > End of Vision2020 Digest, Vol 28, Issue 456> *******************************************> _________________________________________________________________> Stay organized with simple drag and drop from Windows Live Hotmail.> http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_102008> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20081031/c65aebd8/attachment.html > > ------------------------------> > =======================================================> List services made available by First Step Internet, > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > http://www.fsr.net > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================> > End of Vision2020 Digest, Vol 28, Issue 457> *******************************************
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