[Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the tank) Press

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Tue Oct 28 10:53:45 PDT 2008


Visionaires --

Anyone who believes that I have misrepresented No Weatherman in the paragraph he quotes, below, please raise your right hand.  Further, anyone who recognizes this strand of anti-tax, anti-government, anti-poor thought as a regular line from a local church, take a bow.  

And anyone who thinks I'm a liar, Farraked-up or otherwise:  Have a lovely day.

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/


> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:30:00 -0800
> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the	tank) Press
> 
> Ummmmm.
> 
> Let me make sure I understand this.
> 
> You misrepresented my by saying, "Yep, we now have the social safety
> net afforded by taxes being equated not only with theft and innate
> anti-Godliness, but now sociopathy . . . by church folks. Christians,
> even."
> 
> And I asked you to substantiate your position by showing me where I
> wrote you alleged I wrote.
> 
> You reply asking, "Is it at all possible for you to imagine, if only
> for a second, that everything in the world doesn't somehow refer back
> to you?"
> 
> I would think you have the decency to support your allegation but not
> only are you indecent, you're deceitful. You couldn't answer my
> question because, as usual, you were lying.
> 
> This has happened at least five times and each time you come back with
> a self-serving response that makes you look better at the expense of
> the truth.
> 
> You are seriously Farraked up.
> 
> 
> On 10/27/08, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Is it at all possible for you to imagine, if only for a second, that
> > everything in the world doesn't somehow refer back to you?
> >
> > Keely
> > http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:43:43 -0400
> >
> > > From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the
> > tank) Press
> > >
> > > Ms. Mix:
> > >
> > > As usual, you're lying.
> > >
> > > And, as usual, you have extenuating circumstances.
> > >
> > > Can you please show me where I argued "we now have the social safety
> > > net afforded by taxes being equated not only with theft and innate
> > > anti-Godliness, but now sociopathy"?
> > >
> > > Or did you get another freebase rush of self-righteousness by
> > > misrepresenting me to make yourself look holy?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:25 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yep, we now have the social safety net afforded by taxes being equated
> > not
> > > > only with theft and innate anti-Godliness, but now sociopathy . . . by
> > > > church folks. Christians, even.
> > > >
> > > > Strange days, indeed.
> > > >
> > > > Keely
> > > > http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:11:36 -0800
> > > >> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > > >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in
> > the
> > > >> tank) Press
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave:
> > > >>
> > > >> I'll make this simple because I do not want to tax your few remaining
> > > >> brains cells too much
> > > >>
> > > >> You have to establish the boundaries of government, which includes
> > > >> their authority to tax, before you declare a free for all.
> > > >>
> > > >> Paul feels perfectly comfortable when the government takes from others
> > > >> who are wealthier than he is but I have sneaking suspicion that his
> > > >> comfort zone would soon be violated if the state came knocking on his
> > > >> door.
> > > >>
> > > >> As for you, you probably feel morally superior to me because of the
> > > >> overwhelming generosity you display with other people's money. As for
> > > >> sociopaths, maybe you should consider your lack of compunction when it
> > > >> comes to stealing from others.
> > > >>
> > > >> I would empathize with you but I'm afraid that's a moral trait I
> > desire.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 10/27/08, Dave <tiedye at turbonet.com> wrote:
> > > >> > It is entirely obvious that no clue is totally devoid of empathy.
> > > >> > Therefore, of course, a sociopath.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Dave
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> > > >> > > Are you really trying to equate a non-linear tax model as
> > "socialism"?
> > > >> > > That's a stretch, in my opinion. Everyone is still paying taxes,
> > > >> > > except
> > > >> > > for the very poorest of us. The percentages just change.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I also don't like the implication that the rich "earned it and
> > deserve
> > > >> > > it". That would imply that the poor and the middle class did not
> > earn
> > > >> > > it or deserve it. That, fundamentally, is why I can't stand the
> > > >> > > position you are taking. You appear to think that just because
> > you've
> > > >> > > been lucky (yes, lucky) enough to make good money, you deserve it
> > more
> > > >> > > than the next guy. There are just as many hard-working poor and
> > middle
> > > >> > > class people as there are hard-working privileged people, if not
> > more.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > As for the fear that Obama will raise taxes for everyone
> > eventually,
> > > >> > > well, someone has to take responsibility and pay back the enormous
> > > >> > > debt
> > > >> > > that the current administration has heaped on us, don' t you think?
> > > >> > > Especially if we intend to continue the nationalizing of banks that
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > current administration has started.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Paul
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > No Weatherman wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >>> Actually, it's called paying a portion of what you make to a
> > central
> > > >> > >>> pool
> > > >> > >>> which will be used to take care of things no one person wants to
> > > >> > >>> take care
> > > >> > >>> of. Things like roads, military defense, social security,
> > research,
> > > >> > >>> education, health care, the national debt, disaster relief,
> > > >> > >>> veteran's
> > > >> > >>> benefits, and the occasional crackhead and/or welfare queen that
> > > >> > >>> gets away
> > > >> > >>> with gaming the system.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >> You need to distinguish between tax-based necessities and
> > tax-based
> > > >> > >> socialism. Crackheads and welfare queens are not in the same
> > category
> > > >> > >> as roads, defense, vet's benefits, etc.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>> The "minority" has been getting away with murder for longer than
> > you
> > > >> > >>> or I
> > > >> > >>> have been around. They've been sipping mai-tais in Hawaii and
> > > >> > >>> complaining
> > > >> > >>> that their new Beemer has a scratch on the fender. They don't
> > arouse
> > > >> > >>> all
> > > >> > >>> that much pity from me. They can survive a tax hike far more
> > easily
> > > >> > >>> than
> > > >> > >>> the other 95% of us can.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >> Strawman notwithstanding, if they earned it they deserve it.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> And the moment you arbitrarily draw the line at Hawaiian vacations
> > > >> > >> and
> > > >> > >> Beemers, you've invited the Obamas of the world (socialists) to
> > move
> > > >> > >> that line anywhere they want.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Do you know where they want to move it?
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Last I heard Obama floated $250,000 and you and I both know that's
> > > >> > >> not
> > > >> > >> low enough to finance his vision.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> It doesn't matter, though, because you've already given him
> > > >> > >> permission
> > > >> > >> to take other people's money so he can redistribute it to the
> > > >> > >> crackheads.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> So he'll nudge it down to $200,000. Then $150,000. Then $100,000.
> > And
> > > >> > >> before you know it, somewhere in there he found our bracket. He'll
> > > >> > >> find Ms. Lund's bracket. He'll find Ms. Mix's bracket. He'll find
> > Mr.
> > > >> > >> London's bracket. He'll find Mr. Hansen's rubber doll's bracket.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Once you give him permission to redistribute wealth, it won't stop
> > at
> > > >> > >> $250,000.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Obama doesn't want "rich" people's money. He wants everyone's
> > money.
> > > >> > >> He's a Farraking Communist.
> > > >> > >>
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