[Vision2020] PUMA: “Barack Obama might as well have called John McCain a ‘Nigga Hating Cracker’ . . .”

[Paul Rumelhart]

Here are a couple of links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOMdq-Y_E_Q&feature=related

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/06/in_fla_palin_goes_for_the_roug.html

There are lots of valid questions here.  Should McCain and Palin be 
raked over the coals for what some nutjobs yell at the back of the 
room?  Is their repetition of the phrase "domestic terrorist" and the 
insinuation that Obama supports it actually inciting hate?  Is their 
campaign doing enough to distance themselves from this kind of thing?  
Should they come out and state, unequivocally, that that kind of 
response is not welcome at their rallies?

But let's not pretend it didn't happen.  Even the Scranton Times article 
referenced in your email states:

In other recent Republican town halls supporters had been heard yelling 
comments about Mr. Obama such as “terrorist” and “off with his head.”

Making claims that these stories are planted by Obama supporters is, I 
think, more indicative of your mindset here than it is of what is 
actually happening.

I give McCain a smidgin of credit, because he has come out at least once 
and tried to calm the crowd down.  He also looked uncomfortable in the 
clip linked above.  I give Palin no credit whatsoever, because she 
appears not to even consider what someone shouting "Kill Him!" in 
response to her question about a Presidential candidate could mean in 
the reality.

So why don't we stop digging at the candidates, and discuss the issues?

Paul


No Weatherman wrote:
> The "kill him!" story is a complete fabrication:
>
> The Scranton Times Trib was the first to report the non-incident:
> http://www.scrantontimes.com/articles/2008/10/15/news/sc_times_trib.20081015.a.pg1.tt15crowd_s1.2014356_top3.txt
>
> And they reported that the Secret Service could not corroborate the
> non-incident:
> http://www.scrantontimes.com/articles/2008/10/16/news/sc_times_trib.20081016.a.pg11.tt16newsecret_s1.2018812_top8.txt
>
> Obama's acolytes plant these stories, stir the masses, and lash out at
> his opponents for encouraging hate speech.
>
> Change I don't want to believe in.
>
>
> On 10/18/08, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   
>> That's hilarious.  McCain can call Obama a terrorist sympathizer,
>> un-American, and all that crap; his supporters can yell "kill him!",  but
>> this person gets upset if Obama uses the words "hoodwinked and bamboozled"
>> in a speech because of it's context in a Spike Lee movie.
>>
>>  Some people have suddenly gotten very racially-sensitive in the past few
>> months.  Where was this sensitivity a year ago?
>>
>>  Not to mention that the PUMA site uses the term "hoodwinked" in reference
>> to Obama in the About PUMA section.
>>
>>  What a crazy fscked up country we live in.
>>
>>  Paul
>>
>>  No Weatherman wrote:
>>
>>     
>> http://www.puma08.com/2008/10/11/barack-obama-might-as-well-have-called-john-mccain-a-nigga-hating-cracker/
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