[Vision2020] Juneteenth

Fri Oct 17 05:52:45 PDT 2008

Visionaries,

Let us all pray for greater bouts of arthritis for Ms. Mix.

The less she writes, the less she lies.

Arthritis is good for her soul.

However, she raised an interesting point yesterday when she said,
"And, for the record, I think P. Diddy is an idiot. So is anyone who
thinks he speaks for African Americans."

The question is this: Does the African-American community have an
official or unofficial spokesman, and if they do, who is it and how
did they obtain the position and/or office?

Ms Mix thinks that Puff Diddy is an idiot and she thinks that anyone
who thinks he speaks for the African-American community is an idiot as
well.

She and I agree on this point but I would add that this probably makes
every Crip, Blood, gang banger, and ACORN employee in America an
idiot.

Who, however, speaks for the African-American community?

All would probably agree that Jesse Jackson has been on the main stage
for the longest length of time, presenting himself as someone seeking
justice for the disenfranchised African-American community.

But while the Rev. Jackson stumps in public for more this and more
that for his African-American community, he uses an entirely different
vocabulary when he's not on the stump.

For example, FOX News recorded him saying, "Barack, been, um, talking
down to black people on this faith based . . . I want to cut his nuts
off. . . Barack, talking down to black people, telling niggers what to
do."

Quotations like this make my life difficult because I ask questions
that make people squirm and rather than answer them honestly, they
call ME the racist.

But let's take the Rev Jacksons' words and test Ms Mix's "spokesman" theory.

Jesse Jackson puts himself forward as a spokesman for the
African-American community. This is why Fox News had him as a guest
(alongside another black man that I can't identify). Jackson whispers
violent, racist epithets about another black man to the black man
sitting next to him which gave me the sense that they had an
understanding, i.e., they understood that between themselves as black
men they could say the word "nigger" with impunity and express extreme
violence against their fellow black man.

That's my sense, at least, and I'm not a racist for observing it.

However, many of you will probably call me a racist for asking the
following question.

Since Jesse Jackson is a spokesman for the African-American community,
and since Jesse Jackson refers to his fellow "blacks" whom he
represents as "niggers," can we not say that Jesse Jackson is a
spokesman for the "Nigger-American community"?

(Holding my ears as everyone screams RACIST!)

After everyone is done screaming RACIST, we can continue this conversation.

On 10/16/08, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>  Sorry, Bev.  I shouldn't have said that anyone who sees Diddy as a
> spokesman for African Americans is an idiot.  I should have said such a
> person  "is entirely smug in his prejudices and fears, wrapping them around
> him like a warm blanket while sipping from the cup of bitterness in front of
> a fire stoked by hate."  But my arthritis is acting up today, so I went for
> the shorthand.
>
> Keely
> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:50:08 -0700
> > From: bevbafus at verizon.net
> > To: no.weatherman at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Juneteenth
> >
> > can we cut out the insults?
> >
> > Thank you
> > Bev
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> > [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of No
> Weatherman
> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:43 AM
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Juneteenth
> >
> >
> > That's right. It's a national holiday. We celebrate it every year in
> > Moscow and Idaho and the USA.
> >
> > It's right there on my calendar but I've never noticed it.
> >
> > And you have confirmed my secret suspicions of you.
> >
> > You are a racist.
> >
> > To call anyone who thinks Diddy speaks for African Americans "an
> > idiot" makes you a racist and an oppressor of all those African
> > Americans who look up to Diddy as their official peeps and spokesman.
> >
> > But now you have me wondering if you think that anyone who thinks
> > Bishop Dave Thomas speaks for African Americans is an idiot.
> >
> > Ms Mix, do you think Dr. Gier is an idiot?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/16/08, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I can imagine why you've never heard of Juneteenth. It appears that your
> > > people have little interest in a celebration of the Emancipation
> > > Proclamation, which freed slaves. I've been to several Juneteenth
> > > celebrations wherein you'd not only have been welcomed, but educated.
> > >
> > > And, for the record, I think P. Diddy is an idiot. So is anyone who
> > thinks
> > > he speaks for African Americans.
> > >
> > > Keely
> > > http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:07:57 -0800
> > > > From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Palin's Poor Record with African Americans
> > > >
> > > > Dr. Gier,
> > > >
> > > > I been round long time but I aint never no heard of Juneteenth
> > > celebration.
> > > >
> > > > But I did heard of my homeboy Diddy.
> > > >
> > > > "Alaska? Alaska? Alaska, Alaska, come on, man. I don't even know if
> > > > there's any black people in Alaska. If you really think that we're
> > > > going to let you win this election with these, like, crazy decisions
> > > > that you're making, November 4th, we have to protect our future
> > > > because John McCain is bugging the fuck out, okay? What is the reality
> > > > in Alaska? There's not even no crack heads in Alaska, no black people.
> > > > There's not even no, like me."
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.zimbio.com/P+Diddy/articles/354/What+no+Crackheads+in+Alaska
> > > >
> > > > He be talkin like Bishop Dave Thomas: "We wasn't even able or allowed
> > > > to go into the meetings."
> > > >
> > > > Give me a break.
> > > >
> > > > If you want a job then you should ask for it based on your
> > > > qualifications to perform, which includes your ability to communicate
> > > > effectively, cause I aint never got hired by playin the race card.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/15/08, nickgier at roadrunner.com <nickgier at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > > > > How Sarah Palin Excluded African-Americans in Alaska
> > > > > posted by Max Blumenthal on 10/14/2008 @ 01:55am
> > > > > The Nation on the Web
> > > > >
> > > > > On April 29, 2008, 14 leaders of Alaska's black community met with
> > Gov.
> > > Sarah Palin to voice discontent with her minority hiring record. Palin's
> > > response, which was first reported by journalist Earl Ofari Hutchinson,
> > only
> > > compounded her icy relationship with her African-American constituents.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gwen Alexander, the president of the African-American Historical
> > Society
> > > of Alaska, told me that Palin stated defiantly that she had no intention
> > to
> > > hire any minority staffers. And according to Bishop Dave Thomas, senior
> > > pastor of Anchorage-based African-American church Jesus Holy Temple, the
> > > Palin administration excluded black business owners from the Alaskan oil
> > and
> > > gas pipeline board. "We wasn't even able or allowed to go into the
> > meetings"
> > > to seek contracts for the pipeline, Thomas told me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Palin further alienated Alaska's black community by becoming the
> first
> > > Alaskan governor in recent memory to not recognize the Juneteenth
> > > celebration of the emancipation proclamation. "She doesn't hire any
> black
> > > people, she doesn't have any on her staff, so it's not a surprise that
> she
> > > doesn't support our Juneteenth celebration," Alexander said.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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