[Vision2020] More Palin Dishonesty

[No Weatherman]

Ms. Lund:

Thank you for your heartfelt presentation but you have to understand
that it does not matter.

The moment someone threatens to make another human being "eat a
fucking bullet," all bets are off. The rules of the game are changed.

That was my only point.

Time does not remove the seriousness of the threat any more than it
removes the bad blood such language conjures up.

If you don't believe me, ask yourself how you would feel about someone
today if two years ago they threatened your father with identical
language in a family feud.

You really need to get over your Palin envy.


On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Saundra Lund <sslund_2007 at verizon.net> wrote:
> Some people seem to not understand the timeline involved.  Wooten's threat
> was supposedly made in ***2/2005*** to his wife McCann before Palin was even
> running for governor and in the context of a nasty divorce & child custody
> fight -- the threat wasn't reported until ***4/2005*** when McCann filed for
> divorce.  The alleged treat was taken soo seriously by McCann & Palin that
> they didn't even tell their father -- the subject of the alleged threat --
> about the threat until McCann filed for divorce.  And, Palin herself took
> the threat sooo seriously that she left the alleged incident in progresses
> to attend a meeting in another community.
>
> In addition to McCann, Sarah Palin & her son Track, who were apparently
> listening to the argument over an open phone line, reportedly heard the
> threat, which Wooten denies.  According to Track, they were listening to the
> conversation to see if Wooten would admit he was having an affair.  Palin's
> story is different.
>
> In any case, according to the ADN:
> "Wooten told troopers he never said anything like that about his
> father-in-law.
>
> The investigation concluded he did. It wasn't a crime, because he didn't
> threaten Heath directly. But it did violate trooper policy, the
> investigation found."
>
> This finding is documented as Sustained as Unbecoming Conduct and Personal
> Conduct violations in the "troopers (sic) memo of findings on Wooten," but
> it's not mentioned in Grimes' letter suspending Wooten.
>
> The recent investigation was about her abuse of power in the Palins
> never-ending quest to have Wooten fired *after* she was elected governor and
> two years after the alleged threat was made.  Note:  the abuses of power
> happened after the investigation into the many McCann/Palin/Heath
> allegations of Wooten's behavior had been completed and after he'd been
> officially disciplined in 3/2006.  For those who don't know, Palin wasn't
> elected until 11/2006; again, the alleged threat supposedly happened in
> 2/2005.
>
> Chas, if you read the actual report, it really helps clarify things and
> shows a very clear pattern of Sarah Palin's abuse of power and both Palins'
> obsession in their vendetta against Wooten:
> http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20081010_TROOPER.pdf
>
> Quicker reads relating to the background:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/30/AR2008083002
> 366.html?hpid=topnews
> http://www.adn.com/politics/story/476430.html (don't miss the pdf documents
> -- they paint quite a picture divorce/custody nastiness and of gossip in
> small towns)
> http://www.newsweek.com/id/158140
>
> Note:  based on what I've read, Wooten is an icky dude, but if you believe
> the McCann/Palin/Heath clan, he was always an icky dude.  But, I didn't
> choose to marry him and have two kids with him . . . and decide to stay with
> him in spite of the subsequent allegations of illegal conduct that were
> distant, longstanding, and ongoing.  Nor was I an in-law who condoned and
> even participated in distant behavior I was later going to complain about.
> Reading the pdf files, there seem to be more than a few unsavory characters
> and behaviors in the McCann/Palin/Heath/Wooten circle.  Nonetheless, I find
> it telling that while "everyone" apparently knew about all about Wooten's
> conduct for a long time, no one complained until Palin's sister filed for
> divorce, and then all sorts of outrageous allegations came out of the
> woodwork from the McCann/Palin/Heath circle, virtually all of which were
> unsubstantiated and discredited.
>
>
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
>
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> 70 years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Chasuk
> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 7:05 PM
> To: No Weatherman
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More Palin Dishonesty
>
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 15:34, No Weatherman <no.weatherman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The moment the investigation confirmed that your martyred state
>> trooper threatened to make Gov. Palin's father "eat a fucking bullet,"
>> the investigation should have stopped.
>
> As it happens, I agree with you.  However, has this been confirmed, or
> is it still in the realm of a "he said, she said" allegation?  Were
> there impartial witnesses, has it been confessed, was it recorded
> (surreptitiously or otherwise)?
>
>
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