[Vision2020] Palin Candidacy Helps Planned ParenthoodFundraising

[g. crabtree]

For someone who derides others for engaging in this sort of discussion you 
sure do chime in with amazing frequency.

It seems to be that it is your "brain use" that is in question. If human 
life is not created at conception, when is it? At 91 days, at 24 weeks, or 
at 9 months? When do you superstitiously and arbitrarily deem what is 
unquestionably a living entity "human." By your system there would have to 
be an argument to be made for bestowing the title at year 1, 5, or perhaps 
18. I don't think that any amount of brain power can determine the exact 
moment that a child meets your criterion (whatever that might be. I've never 
received a satisfactory answer.) As a conservative, I prefer to err on the 
side of caution. No magic required.

Now perhaps you could polish up your soup spoon and dip me an answer out of 
dworshak reservoir to the question of the day. When does your mighty brain 
(and the impoundment) tell you that humans come into being? Please be as 
specific as your rational mind allows.

g
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To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Palin Candidacy Helps Planned 
ParenthoodFundraising


> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 19:30, g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you truly think that people who believe that life begins at conception 
>> are out of their minds
>
> Not out of their minds, but allowing superstition to overrule the
> rational part of their minds.  If I did believe in God, then I would
> believe that He gave us our brains with the expectation that we
> exercise them occasionally, which the life begins at conception
> proponents show no sign of doing.
>
> Rather obviously, life begins before conception, as neither the egg
> nor the sperm are dead.  But the superstitious give the word "life" in
> this context another, special meaning that more often than not can be
> reduced to a belief in ensoulment.
>
> So the question almost invariably becomes a superstitious one, wherein
> the believer has discarded their reason and/or knowledge in favor of
> magic.
>
> Believing in magic is certainly akin to being out of one's mind, even
> if it is not unarguably the same thing.
>