[Vision2020] California Supreme Court to Take Up Gay Marriage

[Joseph Campbell]

Bill has it right. There is nothing scary about the idea that the average
person is not an expert about constitutional rights.

Kai, do you think your right to free speech is a matter of public opinion,
that you would have no right to speech if the general public said so?

Your right to free speech is not a matter of popular opinion. And neither is
any other right. I¹m thankful for that, and not just because you¹re a fellow
Wildcat!

Joe

On 11/20/08 10:46 AM, "Bill London" <london at moscow.com> wrote:

> That is not a scary sentence. That is the role of the courts.
>  
> A scarier sentence might be:
> "They (the supreme court) agreed that the voters did have the authority to
> enact a law to imprison all Muslims and destroy all mosques."
>  
> After all, just recall the relocation of Japanese Americans in World War II.
>  
> BL
>  
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> From:  Kai  Eiselein, Editor <mailto:editor at lataheagle.com>
>>  
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com ; Tom Hansen <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>
>>  
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:33  AM
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>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] California  Supreme Court to Take Up Gay Marriage
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>>  
> "They argue that voters alone  did not have the authority to enact such a
> significant constitutional  change."
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>  
>  
> THAT is one scary sentence.
>  
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> From:  "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday,  November 20, 2008 7:24 AM
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject:  Re: [Vision2020] California Supreme Court to Take Up Gay  Marriage
> 
>>> >>From today's (November 20, 2008) Spokesman Review  -
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>> >  ---------------------------------------------------------
>> > 
>> >  California Supreme Court to hear cases on gay marriage ban
>> > Lisa Leff  
>> > Associated Press
>> > November 20, 2008
>> > 
>> > SAN  FRANCISCO - California's highest court agreed Wednesday to hear
>> >  several legal challenges to the state's new ban on same-sex marriage but
>> > refused to allow gay couples to resume marrying before it  rules.
>> > 
>> > The California Supreme Court accepted three lawsuits  seeking to nullify
>> > Proposition 8, a voter-approved constitutional  amendment that overruled
>> > the court's decision in May that legalized  gay marriage.
>> > 
>> > All three cases claim the measure abridges the  civil rights of a
>> > vulnerable minority group. They argue that voters  alone did not have the
>> > authority to enact such a significant  constitutional change.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > As is its custom when it  takes up cases, the court elaborated little.
>> > However, the justices  did say they want to address what effect, if any, a
>> > ruling upholding  the amendment would have on the estimated 18,000 same-sex
>> > marriages  that were sanctioned in California before Election Day.
>> > 
>> > Gay  rights groups and local governments petitioning to overturn the ban
>> >  were joined by the measure's sponsors and Attorney General Jerry Brown in
>> > urging the Supreme Court to consider whether Proposition 8 passes  legal
>> > muster.
>> > 
>> > The initiative's opponents had also  asked the court to grant a stay of the
>> > measure, which would have  allowed gay marriages to begin again while the
>> > justices considered  the cases. The court denied that request.
>> > 
>> > The justices  directed Brown and lawyers for the Yes on 8 campaign to
>> > submit  arguments by Dec. 19 on why the ballot initiative should not be
>> >  nullified. It said lawyers for the plaintiffs, who include same-sex
>> >  couples who did not wed before the election, must respond before Jan.  5.
>> > 
>> > Oral arguments could be scheduled as early as March,  according to court
>> > spokeswoman Lynn Holton.
>> > 
>> >  ---------------------------------------------------------
>> > 
>> >  Seeya round town, Moscow.
>> > 
>> > Tom Hansen
>> > Moscow,  Idaho
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>>> >> Tom Hansen wrote:
>>>>> >>  > >From the Associated Press -
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y1axGO8iAE
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >  Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Tom  Hansen
>>>> >> > Moscow, Idaho
>>>> >> >  
>>>> >> >  "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
>> >  college 
>>>> >> > students are not very active in local elections  (thank goodness!)."
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > - Dale Courtney (March  28, 2007)
>>>> >> >
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