[Vision2020] MSM

Sat Nov 1 20:04:59 PDT 2008

Oh, ok.  Mainstream media.  I was feeling too sarcastic to be posting online this morning.  Disregard those.  I find that I give the most weight to those with the least to gain.  

Don> From: vision2020-request at moscow.com> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 13> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:42:29 -0700> > Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to> vision2020 at moscow.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> vision2020-request at moscow.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> vision2020-owner at moscow.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: State Verifies Obama's Birth Certificate (No Weatherman)> 2. Re: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3 (No Weatherman)> 3. Re: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 2 (No Weatherman)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:37:56 -0700> From: "No Weatherman" <no.weatherman at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] State Verifies Obama's Birth Certificate> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>> Message-ID:> <28a621640811011437p22bcaacavd0c87d0b2a07252d at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Well. That settles it.> > Two people said they saw it.> > It must be true.> > But what happened when he lost his US citizenship after Indonesia> naturalized him?> > That's the question that no one has answered.> > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:> > http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news> >> > HONOLULU -- The state's Department of Health director on Friday> > released a statement verifying the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama> > birth certificate.> >> > The state has received multiple requests for a copy of Obama's birth> > certificate. State law does not allow officials to release the birth> > certificate of a person to someone outside of the family.> >> > There were rumors that Obama was born in Kenya, where his father is> > from. The Constitution requires that the president be a natural born> > citizen of the U.S.> >> > While many sites and news organizations have released copies provided> > by the Obama campaign, the rumors have persisted.> >> > "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama's> > official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes> > ?338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to> > persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record," DOH> > Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.> >> > "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along> > with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to> > oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen> > and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen.> > Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state> > policies and procedures. No state official, including Governor Linda> > Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a> > manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the> > State of Hawai'i," Fukino said.> >> > Multiple lawsuits were filed to try and force Obama to provide proof> > of citizenship.> >> > =======================================================> > List services made available by First Step Internet,> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> > http://www.fsr.net> > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> > =======================================================> >> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:40:05 -0700> From: "No Weatherman" <no.weatherman at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>> Message-ID:> <28a621640811011440o20cc5712hb2c8c043f6698495 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Donald:> > MSM stands for mainstream media.> > The MSM are all those hard working news sources that have worked day> and night to tell us everything Ms Lund knows about Gov Palin while> they did nothing to inform us about Obama's two years at Columbia.> > The MSM are all those diligent investigative reporters who worked> tirelessly to discover that Gov Palin didn't have an abortion but> haven't told us Jack Shiite about Obama's Kenyan father, his homeless> brother, his illegal alien aunt, and his Communist-Sharia Law> supporter cousin-thug Odinga.> > The MSM are all those fat assed news corporations that give the thumbs> up sign to the LA Times as they sit on a video tape of Obama toasting> a former PLO terrorist as he sits next to domestic terrorists Bill> Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn.> > The MSM are those lazy reporters who camp out at Joe the Plumber's> house for four days, rifling through his trash and reporting> information that Obama operatives obtained illegally from state> sources, but who refuse to ask the hard, penetrating questions of> Obama like, "How could you sit through Jermemiah Wright's unrelenting> hate mongering for 20 years and claim that you never heard that racist> pig monger hate?"> > The MSM would be the criminally negligent fourth branch of the US> government that has an absolute obligation to exercise free speech to> expose government corruption lest they become a party to it.> > That's the mainstream media.> > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:57 AM, donald edwards> <donaledwards at hotmail.com> wrote:> > Can someone tell me what "msm" stands for? I'm one of the dumber pests on> > the list and have only heard this in my life coming from Mr./Mrs./both?> > No.Man.> >> > Thanks, Don> >> >> >> From: vision2020-request at moscow.com> >> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3> >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 06:31:39 -0700> >>> >> Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to> >> vision2020 at moscow.com> >>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> >> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> >> vision2020-request at moscow.com> >>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at> >> vision2020-owner at moscow.com> >>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> >> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."> >>> >>> >> Today's Topics:> >>> >> 1. Re: John McCain not Born in US, But Panama (Ellen Roskovich)> >> 2. Re: We've All Misunderstood the First Amendment in the World> >> According to Palin (g. crabtree)> >>> >>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 1> >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 06:18:26 -0700> >> From: Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 at hotmail.com>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] John McCain not Born in US, But Panama> >> To: jeanlivingston <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com>,> >> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>> >> Message-ID: <COL103-W25EE2430A0B14D30FADD37E2230 at phx.gbl>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> >>> >>> >> Yep. . . . that's what everyone thinks. But I also think the law might be> >> a little more complicated than that on a case by case basis. I would hope I> >> was given the correct info in London 40 years ago. . . . not that it matters> >> now because we jumped through all the hoops necessary and Kathleen has never> >> expressed any desire to run for office. Getting her very own passport for> >> the first time was an interesting experience though. . . especially when the> >> clerk at Latah County courthouse, holding a certified copy of her birth> >> issued from the archives at Washington, D.C., tells immigration in Seattle> >> that she "has no proof of citizenship".> >>> >> Because this could drag on and on in a back and forth unnecessary> >> discussion, I will tell you what I was told in London right up front 40> >> years ago.> >>> >> As I stated before. . . Kathleen was born in a U.S. military hospital in> >> the U.K. My first husband was in the military and at the time of her birth> >> was in Vietnam and not assigned to a base there in the U.K. Maybe the Status> >> of Forces Agreement doesn't apply in the same way in this case. Also, my> >> first husband was born outside the U.S. and was a naturalized citizen. So> >> only one of Kathleen's parents was a natural born citizen. A very serious> >> government official took me in his office and stressed the importance of me> >> understanding that my daughter's citizenship was "conditional" at this time> >> and she would have to reside in the United States for seven consecutive> >> years between the ages of 14 and 28. That's when I asked if she could ever> >> become president and I was told "no".> >>> >> So that's the story in a nutshell.> >>> >> And in mulling it all over I would guess McCain's dad was probably> >> assigned to duty in Panama and both his parents were natural born citizens.> >> . . . so he's good to go. And Obama was born to a natural born mother in the> >> state of Hawaii and it doesn't matter if he was dragged as a kid half-way> >> around the world and attended schools in other countries. . . he's good to> >> go. I'm sure this has been hashed out years ago by a multitude of lawyers.> >>> >> So. . . . go vote. And after you vote for that one, you'll have a little> >> smile on your face because you've just exercised your right as a citizen.> >>> >> Ellen A. Roskovich> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 04:34:07 -0700From: jeanlivingston at turbonet.comTo:> >> donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com;> >> gussie443 at hotmail.comSubject: Re: [Vision2020] John McCain not Born in US,> >> But Panama> >> Donovan's understanding accords with mine. If one of your parents was a US> >> Citizen when you were born, then you are a citizen, too, regardless of where> >> you were born.> >> Bruce Livingston> >> -----Original message-----From: Donovan Arnold> >> donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.comDate: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:46:01 -0700To:> >> vision2020 at moscow.com, Ellen Roskovich gussie443 at hotmail.comSubject: Re:> >> [Vision2020] John McCain not Born in US, But Panama> Ellen,> > As I> >> understand the law (,8 USC 1401) a person is a natural born citizen of the> >> United States if they were;> > A) Born on US soil. Any state or territory. >> >> > B) Either one of their parents was a US Citizen at the time of their birth> >> but born on foreign soil. > > A naturalized citizen is one that is not a US> >> citizen at birth. Anyone who became a citizen later on in life is not> >> allowed to be President or Vice-President. > > Best Regards,> > Donovan> >> >> --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Ellen Roskovich wrote:> > From: Ellen Roskovich >> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] John McCain not Born in US, But Panama> To:> >> donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, vision2020 at moscow.com> Date: Friday, October> >> 31, 2008, 2:25 PM> > > > > #yiv2119640095 .hmmessage P> {>!> >> margin:0px;padding:0px;}> #yiv2119640095 {>> >> FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}> > I have read that since he, McCain,> >> was born in a U.S. Naval Hospital in Panama, he is considered a native born> >> citizen. . . and this is where I get a little fuzzy. Is this a new rule?> >> Because my oldest daughter was born in the U.K. at RAF Lakenheath, a U.S.> >> Airforce Hospital and when I registered her birth at the U.S. Embassy in> >> London, I asked if she could run for President and I was told "no". Of> >> course I might have had a clerk who didn't know the rules, but surely I> >> wasn't the first person to ask that question.> > Like I said. . . . I'm a> >> little fuzzy about the qualifications of that McCain guy, but last time I> >> checked, Hawaii was a state.> > Ellen A. Roskovich> > P.S. Avoid lines, vote> >> early and then spend Tuesday helping others get out to vote.> > > > > > >> >> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:06:54 -0700> From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>> >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Subject: [Vision2020] !> >> John McCain not Born in US, But Panama> > > > > > > > John McCain was not> >> born in the US. and using Republican arguments against Obama, McCain is thus> >> not qualified to be President.> > McCain was born in Panama. > > Best> >> Regards,> > Donovan> > > > You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes> >> beyond your PC. See how> >> =======================================================> List services made> >> available by First Step Internet, > serving the communities of the Palouse> >> since 1994. > http://www.fsr.net > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com>> >> =======================================================> > > >> >> _________________________________________________________________> >> Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive.> >>> >> http://skydrive.live.com/welcome.aspx?provision=1?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_102008> >> -------------- next part --------------> >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> >> URL:> >> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20081101/f928c5ab/attachment-0001.html> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 2> >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 06:31:34 -0700> >> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] We've All Misunderstood the First Amendment> >> in the World According to Palin> >> To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>, "Saundra Lund"> >> <sslund_2007 at verizon.net>> >> Cc: 'Vision 2020' <vision2020 at moscow.com>> >> Message-ID: <C341AA6F1D694897A97B738CD0D4E8B3 at gmc>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> >>> >> Didn't one of our most esteemed on again, off again members make the same> >> argument?> >>> >> "I worry about the V. Of course, I've been unable to post without one pest> >> or another for about two years now, but it seems that since its worked so> >> well against me, various forces have decided to try it on everyone else. I> >> lament what seems to me to be the loss of free speech in Moscow."> >>> >> It appears to me that this fellow feels that his freedom of speech is> >> being denied because he can't say any damn fool thing he wants without some> >> peon who is nowhere near as smart or as cool as he is questioning him or,> >> worse yet, disagreeing. This person has informed us that he is very> >> intelligent and many of the regulars on this list have expressed their> >> concurrence. With all this in mind I should think that Mrs. Palin would be> >> promoted to at least the level of philosophy professor with all the respect> >> and deference that lofty title entails.> >>> >> g> >>> >>> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----> >> From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>> >> To: "Saundra Lund" <sslund_2007 at verizon.net>> >> Cc: "'Vision 2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 12:00 AM> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] We've All Misunderstood the First Amendment in> >> the World According to Palin> >>> >>> >> > Criticizing someone's public statements threatens their rights?> >> >> >> > Do what you can to keep this person out of the most powerful position in> >> > the most powerful nation on earth. Please.> >> >> >> > Paul> >> >> >> > Saundra Lund wrote:> >> >> <groan>> >> >>> >> >> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/palin-fears-med.html> >> >>> >> >> Palin Fears Media Threaten Her First Amendment Rights> >> >> October 31, 2008 11:25 AM> >> >>> >> >> ABC News' Steven Portnoy reports: In a conservative radio interview> >> >> that> >> >> aired in Washington, D.C. Friday morning, Republican vice presidential> >> >> nominee Gov. Sarah Palin said she fears her First Amendment rights may> >> >> be> >> >> threatened by "attacks" from reporters who suggest she is engaging in a> >> >> negative campaign against Barack Obama.> >> >>> >> >> Palin told WMAL-AM that her criticism of Obama's associations, like> >> >> those> >> >> with 1960s radical Bill Ayers and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, should not> >> >> be> >> >> considered negative attacks. Rather, for reporters or columnists to> >> >> suggest> >> >> that it is going negative may constitute an attack that threatens a> >> >> candidate's free speech rights under the Constitution, Palin said.> >> >>> >> >> "If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative> >> >> campaigning,> >> >> for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations," Palin told host> >> >> Chris> >> >> Plante, "then I don't know what the future of our country would be in> >> >> terms> >> >> of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear> >> >> of> >> >> attacks by the mainstream media."> >> >>> >> >> However she feels about the way her story has been told in the press,> >> >> Palin> >> >> told WMAL she is not discouraged.> >> >>> >> >> "It's sort of perplexing to me, because I'm a practical person and> >> >> plainspoken also, but just cutting to the chase and calling things like> >> >> I> >> >> see them, just like most Americans. But this has not left a bitter> >> >> taste in> >> >> my mouth, the bitter shots taken by the mainstream media and by some of> >> >> the> >> >> elitism there in Washington," Palin said.> >> >>> >> >> "What this has left me with is a very energized and positive feeling> >> >> about> >> >> America, because there are enough Americans who are desiring the> >> >> positive> >> >> change that John McCain's gonna usher in."> >> >>> >> >> Plante then suggested that in her next sit-down interview, Palin should> >> >> tap> >> >> the reporter on the knee and ask, "So who you votin' for?"> >> >>> >> >> Palin laughed and said, "Yeah, maybe that just would say it all."> >> >>> >> >> "I'm gonna try that," she said.> >> >>> >> >> =======================================================> >> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> >> http://www.fsr.net> >> >> mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> =======================================================> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > =======================================================> >> > List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> > http://www.fsr.net> >> > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> > =======================================================> >> >> >> -------------- next part --------------> >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> >> URL:> >> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20081101/753578ea/attachment.html> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> =======================================================> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> http://www.fsr.net> >> mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> =======================================================> >>> >> End of Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 3> >> *****************************************> >> >> > ________________________________> > You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC. See how> > =======================================================> > List services made available by First Step Internet,> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> > http://www.fsr.net> > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> > =======================================================> >> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:42:30 -0700> From: "No Weatherman" <no.weatherman at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 2> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>> Message-ID:> <28a621640811011442p153e23ewe977a3ad958a9505 at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252> > The woman who knows everything has spoken again.> > I wonder how Ms. Mix would feel if Mr. Hansen posted a link to an> adult site that had a Keely Emerine Mix doll?> > The DominateMix or the Visionatrix or the Self-righteous HateMix ? she> hands out abuse to those that disagree with her and she culls those> that agree with her. She's the HystericalMix.> > Btw, all your flattering accolades aside, Mr. Hansen is still a loud> and obnoxious person who lacks decency and common sense.> > And he's a wreath of garlic for any cause he's associated with.> > So are you.> > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:> > This community owes Tom Hansen a debt of gratitude for his tireless work in> > maintaining both "Not On The Palouse" and "Moscow Cares," two websites that> > use original-source material to document things he (and I) believe are> > problematic in our community, as well as things that are positive.> >> > Like me, Tom sometimes gets it wrong. But the man has worked harder than> > almost anyone I know to expose ministerial and other mischief, and in doing> > so, he deserves our admiration. His association with me in our common> > concerns about the Kirk gains him no fans -- and likely brings him some> > punches from a lot of sides -- but he has been nothing but kind to me and> > has nothing but good intentions for this town.> >> > The prurient harping on the Palin Toy subject says much more about the> > writer than about Tom.> >> > Keely> > http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/> >> >> >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 11:11:06 -0700> >> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com> >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 2> >>> >> Donald:> >>> >> Please take an Obama chill pill or I'll arrange to throw you off the> >> plane.> >>> >> First, I don't get to decide what are issues for you and you don't get> >> to decide what are issues for me.> >>> >> Second, I'm not an idiot so that probably explains why the rubber doll> >> posting is NOT a non-issue to me.> >>> >> Third, my continued harping on it only means that I believe it was> >> over the top by any standard and for you to suggest that it says> >> something about my own dirty mind is a non- sequitur. IOW, I could> >> argue that your post below is proof that you have a dirty mind ?> >> except that it does not follow.> >>> >> Fourth, the difference between the gag toys you referenced and the> >> rubber doll that Mr. Hansen referenced is the difference between> >> inanimate objects and human beings.> >>> >> Fifth, I don't know that Mr. Hansen is a community minded person. If> >> anything, I think he's a detriment to the community because of his> >> loud obnoxious mouth. He's about as friendly as a viper to those who> >> disagree with him and he's so rude in public on so many issues that I> >> believe he can single handedly sink any cause that he's publicly> >> associated with.> >>> >> Sixth, my take on human decency is not a subject to question by> >> default. That's another non sequitur.> >>> >> Finally, did you know that Tipper Gore founded the PMRC?> >>> >>> >>> >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:53 AM, donald edwards> >> <donaledwards at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> > No man, GROW UP and get your mind out of the gutter. Have you ever heard> >> > "who smelt it dealt it"? Any idiot can see that the rubber doll posting> >> > is> >> > a non-issue but your continued harping on it as something dirty says> >> > something about your own dirty mind, not Tom's, it's a joke like fuzzy> >> > handcuffs or elephant trunk and pinochio nose briefs. We all know that> >> > Hansen is a community minded person who strives to share knowledge, and> >> > lots> >> > of humor, with those in his community. Since we don't know you, your> >> > take> >> > on human decency is subject to question by default.> >> >> >> > You're like the PMRC where the ultra-religious hear subliminal messages> >> > about the devil in metal songs written about recovery or something.> >> >> >> > Don> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: vision2020-request at moscow.com> >> >> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 2> >> >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 06:13:19 -0700> >> >>> >> >> Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to> >> >> vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >>> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> >> >> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020> >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> >> >> vision2020-request at moscow.com> >> >>> >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at> >> >> vision2020-owner at moscow.com> >> >>> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> >> >> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Today's Topics:> >> >>> >> >> 1. Re: We've All Misunderstood the First Amendment in the World> >> >> According to Palin (No Weatherman)> >> >> 2. Re: John McCain not Born in US, But Panama (No Weatherman)> >> >> 3. An Urgent Communiqu? From The No Weatherman: McCain up by one> >> >> (No Weatherman)> >> >> 4. Re: Weathermen (Tom Hansen)> >> >> 5. Re: Weathermen (No Weatherman)> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >>> >> >> Message: 1> >> >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 08:03:29 -0400> >> >> From: "No Weatherman" <no.weatherman at gmail.com>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] We've All Misunderstood the First Amendment> >> >> in the World According to Palin> >> >> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>> >> >> Message-ID:> >> >> <28a621640811010503p7bdc6663g7f3560bfc408d065 at mail.gmail.com>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> >> >>> >> >> It's the new trend in politics to license politically correct speech> >> >> and censure its antithesis.> >> >>> >> >> The trend has been there for 20 years but now the msm is leading the> >> >> way in the criticism.> >> >>> >> >> Instead of acting like the fourth branch of our government, the msm is> >> >> acting like a fifth column.> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> On 11/1/08, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:> >> >> > Criticizing someone's public statements threatens their rights?> >> >> >> >> >> > Do what you can to keep this person out of the most powerful position> >> >> > in> >> >> > the most powerful nation on earth. Please.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Paul> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Saundra Lund wrote:> >> >> > > <groan>> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/palin-fears-med.html> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Palin Fears Media Threaten Her First Amendment Rights> >> >> > > October 31, 2008 11:25 AM> >> >> > >> >> >> > > ABC News' Steven Portnoy reports: In a conservative radio interview> >> >> > > that> >> >> > > aired in Washington, D.C. Friday morning, Republican vice> >> >> > > presidential> >> >> > > nominee Gov. Sarah Palin said she fears her First Amendment rights> >> >> > > may> >> >> > > be> >> >> > > threatened by "attacks" from reporters who suggest she is engaging> >> >> > > in> >> >> > > a> >> >> > > negative campaign against Barack Obama.> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Palin told WMAL-AM that her criticism of Obama's associations, like> >> >> > > those> >> >> > > with 1960s radical Bill Ayers and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, should> >> >> > > not> >> >> > > be> >> >> > > considered negative attacks. Rather, for reporters or columnists to> >> >> > > suggest> >> >> > > that it is going negative may constitute an attack that threatens a> >> >> > > candidate's free speech rights under the Constitution, Palin said.> >> >> > >> >> >> > > "If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative> >> >> > > campaigning,> >> >> > > for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations," Palin told> >> >> > > host> >> >> > > Chris> >> >> > > Plante, "then I don't know what the future of our country would be> >> >> > > in> >> >> > > terms> >> >> > > of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without> >> >> > > fear of> >> >> > > attacks by the mainstream media."> >> >> > >> >> >> > > However she feels about the way her story has been told in the> >> >> > > press,> >> >> > > Palin> >> >> > > told WMAL she is not discouraged.> >> >> > >> >> >> > > "It's sort of perplexing to me, because I'm a practical person and> >> >> > > plainspoken also, but just cutting to the chase and calling things> >> >> > > like I> >> >> > > see them, just like most Americans. But this has not left a bitter> >> >> > > taste in> >> >> > > my mouth, the bitter shots taken by the mainstream media and by> >> >> > > some> >> >> > > of the> >> >> > > elitism there in Washington," Palin said.> >> >> > >> >> >> > > "What this has left me with is a very energized and positive> >> >> > > feeling> >> >> > > about> >> >> > > America, because there are enough Americans who are desiring the> >> >> > > positive> >> >> > > change that John McCain's gonna usher in."> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Plante then suggested that in her next sit-down interview, Palin> >> >> > > should tap> >> >> > > the reporter on the knee and ask, "So who you votin' for?"> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Palin laughed and said, "Yeah, maybe that just would say it all."> >> >> > >> >> >> > > "I'm gonna try that," she said.> >> >> > >> >> >> > > =======================================================> >> >> > > List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> >> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> >> > > http://www.fsr.net> >> >> > > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> > > =======================================================> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > =======================================================> >> >> > List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> >> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> >> > http://www.fsr.net> >> >> > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> > =======================================================> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------> >> >>> >> >> Message: 2> >> >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 08:07:46 -0400> >> >> From: "No Weatherman" <no.weatherman at gmail.com>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] John McCain not Born in US, But Panama> >> >> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>> >> >> Message-ID:> >> >> <28a621640811010507l4c85f642t5b305caca5eb5f98 at mail.gmail.com>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> >> >>> >> >> Donavan:> >> >>> >> >> Can someone lose their NBC status if another country that does not> >> >> allow dual citizenship (eg, Indonesia) naturalizes them?> >> >>> >> >> If so, that person may certainly reapply for citizenship in the US,> >> >> but would such citizenship restore their "natural born citizenship"?> >> >>> >> >> PS: If you think that McCain is not eligible to hold the office of> >> >> POTUS, then you are free to challenge him in court.> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> On 11/1/08, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Ellen,> >> >> >> >> >> > As I understand the law (,8 USC 1401) a person is a natural born> >> >> > citizen> >> >> > of the United States if they were;> >> >> >> >> >> > A) Born on US soil. Any state or territory.> >> >> >> >> >> > B) Either one of their parents was a US Citizen at the time of their> >> >> > birth but born on foreign soil.> >> >> >> >> >> > A naturalized citizen is one that is not a US citizen at birth.> >> >> > Anyone> >> >> > who became a citizen later on in life is not allowed to be President> >> >> > or> >> >> > Vice-President.> >> >> >> >> >> > Best Regards,> >> >> >> >> >> > Donovan> >> >> >> >> >> > --- On Fri, 10/31/08, Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> > From: Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 at hotmail.com>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] John McCain not Born in US, But Panama> >> >> > To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> > Date: Friday, October 31, 2008, 2:25 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I have read that since he, McCain, was born in a U.S. Naval Hospital> >> >> > in> >> >> > Panama, he is considered a native born citizen. . . and this is where> >> >> > I get> >> >> > a little fuzzy. Is this a new rule? Because my oldest daughter was> >> >> > born in> >> >> > the U.K. at RAF Lakenheath, a U.S. Airforce Hospital and when I> >> >> > registered> >> >> > her birth at the U.S. Embassy in London, I asked if she could run for> >> >> > President and I was told "no". Of course I might have had a clerk who> >> >> > didn't> >> >> > know the rules, but surely I wasn't the first person to ask that> >> >> > question.> >> >> >> >> >> > Like I said. . . . I'm a little fuzzy about the qualifications of> >> >> > that> >> >> > McCain guy, but last time I checked, Hawaii was a state.> >> >> >> >> >> > Ellen A. Roskovich> >> >> >> >> >> > P.S. Avoid lines, vote early and then spend Tuesday helping others> >> >> > get> >> >> > out to vote.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________> >> >>> >> >> > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:06:54 -0700> >> >> > From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> >> >> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> > Subject: [Vision2020] John McCain not Born in US, But Panama> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > John McCain was not born in the US. and using Republican arguments> >> >> > against Obama, McCain is thus not qualified to be President.> >> >> >> >> >> > McCain was born in Panama.> >> >> >> >> >> > Best Regards,> >> >> >> >> >> > Donovan> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________> >> >> You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC. See> >> >> how ======================================================= List> >> >> services made available by First Step Internet, serving the> >> >> communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> >> http://www.fsr.net> >> >> mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> =======================================================> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > =======================================================> >> >> > List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> >> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> >> > http://www.fsr.net> >> >> > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> > =======================================================> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------> >> >>> >> >> Message: 3> >> >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 08:10:44 -0400> >> >> From: "No Weatherman" <no.weatherman at gmail.com>> >> >> Subject: [Vision2020] An Urgent Communiqu? From The No Weatherman:> >> >> McCain up by one> >> >> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>> >> >> Message-ID:> >> >> <28a621640811010510x445c2b19q55746914371e6d6d at mail.gmail.com>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252> >> >>> >> >> Released: 11-01-2008> >> >> Next Release: 11-02-08, 1:00AM> >> >>> >> >> UTICA, New York ? Republican John McCain made a small gain against> >> >> Democrat Barack Obama and has pulled back within the margin of error,> >> >> now trailing Obama by five points, 49.1% to 44.1%, the latest> >> >> Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby daily tracking telephone poll shows.> >> >>> >> >> Almost two days worth of the polling ? or about half of the current> >> >> sample in the three-day rolling poll of likely voters nationwide, was> >> >> conducted after Obama's 30-minute commercial aired Wednesday evening.> >> >> There is no evidence it helped him, as he has dropped 1.1 points in> >> >> the last two days, while McCain has gained 0.8 points during the same> >> >> period.> >> >>> >> >> Pollster John Zogby: "Is McCain making a move? The three-day average> >> >> holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama today, 48% to 47%. He is> >> >> beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading> >> >> among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors> >> >> and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the> >> >> Plumber may get his license after all. "Obama's lead among women> >> >> declined, and it looks like it is occurring because McCain is> >> >> solidifying the support of conservative women, which is something we> >> >> saw last time McCain picked up in the polls. If McCain has a good day> >> >> tomorrow, we will eliminate Obama's good day three days ago, and we> >> >> could really see some tightening in this rolling average. But for now,> >> >> hold on."> >> >> http://www.zogby.com/main.htm> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------> >> >>> >> >> Message: 4> >> >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:39:26 GMT> >> >> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Weathermen> >> >> To: <no.weatherman at gmail.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>> >> >> Message-ID: <200811011239.mA1CdQcH010063 at mail-gw.fsr.net>> >> >>> >> >> FYI, N-'man -> >> >>> >> >> I googled "Palin Toys".> >> >>> >> >> End.> >> >>> >> >> Tom Hansen> >> >> Moscow, Idaho> >> >>> >> >> > Mr. Hansen:> >> >> >> >> >> > When you post links to rubber dolls, most normal people automatically> >> >> > conclude that you surf rubber doll sites.> >> >> >> >> >> > Am I wrong?> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>> >> >> > wrote:> >> >> > > Not that anybody gives a rat what I think, but . . .> >> >> > >> >> >> > > As long as I have been a subscriber to Vision 2020 (several years),> >> >> > > I> >> >> do> >> >> > > not recall Joe Campbell EVER (not even once in jest) posting under> >> >> > > a> >> >> name> >> >> > > other than "Joe Campbell".> >> >> > >> >> >> > > You may disagree with what Joe has to say (I have on a few> >> >> > > occasions),> >> >> but> >> >> > > Joe has always been a what-you-see-is-what-you-get kinda guy, all> >> >> > > under> >> >> > > one name and one name ONLY . . . Joe Campbell. And I respect him> >> >> > > very> >> >> > > much for that. He doesn't hide from anybody or anything.> >> >> > >> >> >> > > REAL men and REAL women don't hide.> >> >> > >> >> >> > > The type of moron that posts under a false name would cowar from> >> >> his/her> >> >> > > own shadow.> >> >> > >> >> >> > > I realize that this posting will result in further name-calling,> >> >> > > and> >> >> maybe> >> >> > > even some commentary referring to its imagined fantasy of my> >> >> > > sexuality.> >> >> > >> >> >> > > So be it. Eventually it will crawl back under its rock and we> >> >> > > adults> >> >> can> >> >> > > resume our discussions.> >> >> > >> >> >> > > As the saying goes . . .> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Even this shall come to pass.> >> >> > >> >> >> > > Tom Hansen> >> >> > > Moscow, Idaho> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> A few things before I go back to my life off Vision 2020.> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> First, I am not Gabe Storm. I'm not quite sure why No Weatherman> >> >> > >> hates> >> >> > >> me so much, why he likes spreading lies about me, but there> >> >> > >> doesn't> >> >> seem> >> >> > >> to be much I can do about that. Remember he first entered the> >> >> > >> scene> >> >> when> >> >> > >> he hounded me and it is interesting that he's doing the same thing> >> >> > >> to> >> >> > >> everyone else, which is why I'm not the only leaving the V.> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> Second, I apologize for saying that I thought that No Weatherman> >> >> > >> was> >> >> > >> a> >> >> > >> Kirk, since it seems pretty clear to me now that he's not. I was> >> >> > >> wrong> >> >> > >> to make this assertion. Say what you want about them but I don't> >> >> > >> know> >> >> of> >> >> > >> many Kirk's who are willing to throw their wives "under the bus."> >> >> > >> I> >> >> > >> think, in fact, it is pretty clear that No Weatherman and Gabe> >> >> > >> Storm> >> >> are> >> >> > >> the same person, and that he is just gearing up for his> >> >> > >> post-election> >> >> > >> life where, instead of hearing rumors and insults about Obama,> >> >> > >> we're> >> >> > >> going to be hearing rumors and insults about the Kirk.> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> I had an unfortunate correspondence with a young troll a few years> >> >> back,> >> >> > >> which started with an unpleasant exchange about capital punishment> >> >> > >> and> >> >> > >> moved to some off-line threats from young troll toward me. I> >> >> > >> accused> >> >> him> >> >> > >> of being a Kirk and he got very offended. All I know about him is> >> >> > >> that> >> >> > >> he is young and his folks go to, or went to the Unitarian church.> >> >> > >> Not> >> >> > >> much to go on but if this rings a bell, please contact me> >> >> > >> off-list.> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> Also, since I fear a long winter with more crazy talk from Gabe> >> >> > >> Storm,> >> >> > >> followed by accusations that he and I are one and the same, I'm> >> >> > >> trying> >> >> > >> to prepare. Does anyone know if this kind of stuff constitutes> >> >> > >> defamation, if I have any legal recourse, and if I do, does anyone> >> >> know> >> >> > >> of a good lawyer whom I might contact for advice? I'm going to try> >> >> > >> to> >> >> > >> contact some folks at WSU, since it seems that any defamation> >> >> > >> against> >> >> me> >> >> > >> is bad for them, as well. Perhaps I can find some assistance> >> >> > >> there.> >> >> But> >> >> > >> my guess is that nothing can be done. I'd love for someone to> >> >> > >> prove> >> >> > >> me> >> >> > >> wrong!> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> I worry about the V. Of course, I've been unable to post without> >> >> > >> one> >> >> > >> pest or another for about two years now, but it seems that since> >> >> > >> its> >> >> > >> worked so well against me, various forces have decided to try it> >> >> > >> on> >> >> > >> everyone else. I lament what seems to me to be the loss of free> >> >> > >> speech> >> >> > >> in Moscow.> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> Best, Joe> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------> >> >> > > This message was sent by First Step Internet.> >> >> > > http://www.fsr.com/> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > =======================================================> >> >> > > List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> >> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> >> > > http://www.fsr.net> >> >> > > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> > > =======================================================> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > =======================================================> >> >> > List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> >> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> >> > http://www.fsr.net> >> >> > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> > =======================================================> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> "Jesus was a community organizer and Poncius Pilate was a governor."> >> >>> >> >> - Marilyn Trail, sister of Representative Tom trail (September 8, 2008)> >> >>> >> >> ----> >> >>> >> >> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college> >> >> students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."> >> >>> >> >> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------> >> >> This message was sent by First Step Internet.> >> >> http://www.fsr.com/> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------> >> >>> >> >> Message: 5> >> >> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 06:13:17 -0700> >> >> From: "No Weatherman" <no.weatherman at gmail.com>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Weathermen> >> >> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>> >> >> Message-ID:> >> >> <28a621640811010613n1e25f64eha7597649403df08f at mail.gmail.com>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> >> >>> >> >> Mr. Hansen:> >> >>> >> >> For the record, I really don't believe you because you wouldn't have> >> >> to posted a link to an adult site unless you felt comfortable in that> >> >> environment.> >> >>> >> >> I said you lack decency and common sense and you have done nothing to> >> >> change my mind.> >> >>> >> >> If you don't want people (eg, me) to think that you don't tinker with> >> >> rubber dolls, then you shouldn't post links to rubber doll sites.> >> >>> >> >> It's a simple matter of decency.> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:> >> >> > FYI, N-'man -> >> >> >> >> >> > I googled "Palin Toys".> >> >> >> >> >> > End.> >> >> >> >> >> > Tom Hansen> >> >> > Moscow, Idaho> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mr. Hansen:> >> >> >>> >> >> >> When you post links to rubber dolls, most normal people> >> >> >> automatically> >> >> >> conclude that you surf rubber doll sites.> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Am I wrong?> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>> >> >> >> wrote:> >> >> >> > Not that anybody gives a rat what I think, but . . .> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > As long as I have been a subscriber to Vision 2020 (several> >> >> >> > years), I> >> >> > do> >> >> >> > not recall Joe Campbell EVER (not even once in jest) posting under> >> >> >> > a> >> >> > name> >> >> >> > other than "Joe Campbell".> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > You may disagree with what Joe has to say (I have on a few> >> >> >> > occasions),> >> >> > but> >> >> >> > Joe has always been a what-you-see-is-what-you-get kinda guy, all> >> >> >> > under> >> >> >> > one name and one name ONLY . . . Joe Campbell. And I respect him> >> >> >> > very> >> >> >> > much for that. He doesn't hide from anybody or anything.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > REAL men and REAL women don't hide.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > The type of moron that posts under a false name would cowar from> >> >> > his/her> >> >> >> > own shadow.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I realize that this posting will result in further name-calling,> >> >> >> > and> >> >> > maybe> >> >> >> > even some commentary referring to its imagined fantasy of my> >> >> >> > sexuality.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > So be it. Eventually it will crawl back under its rock and we> >> >> >> > adults> >> >> > can> >> >> >> > resume our discussions.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > As the saying goes . . .> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Even this shall come to pass.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Tom Hansen> >> >> >> > Moscow, Idaho> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> A few things before I go back to my life off Vision 2020.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> First, I am not Gabe Storm. I'm not quite sure why No Weatherman> >> >> >> >> hates> >> >> >> >> me so much, why he likes spreading lies about me, but there> >> >> >> >> doesn't> >> >> > seem> >> >> >> >> to be much I can do about that. Remember he first entered the> >> >> >> >> scene> >> >> > when> >> >> >> >> he hounded me and it is interesting that he's doing the same> >> >> >> >> thing> >> >> >> >> to> >> >> >> >> everyone else, which is why I'm not the only leaving the V.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Second, I apologize for saying that I thought that No Weatherman> >> >> >> >> was> >> >> >> >> a> >> >> >> >> Kirk, since it seems pretty clear to me now that he's not. I was> >> >> >> >> wrong> >> >> >> >> to make this assertion. Say what you want about them but I don't> >> >> >> >> know> >> >> > of> >> >> >> >> many Kirk's who are willing to throw their wives "under the bus."> >> >> >> >> I> >> >> >> >> think, in fact, it is pretty clear that No Weatherman and Gabe> >> >> >> >> Storm> >> >> > are> >> >> >> >> the same person, and that he is just gearing up for his> >> >> >> >> post-election> >> >> >> >> life where, instead of hearing rumors and insults about Obama,> >> >> >> >> we're> >> >> >> >> going to be hearing rumors and insults about the Kirk.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> I had an unfortunate correspondence with a young troll a few> >> >> >> >> years> >> >> > back,> >> >> >> >> which started with an unpleasant exchange about capital> >> >> >> >> punishment> >> >> >> >> and> >> >> >> >> moved to some off-line threats from young troll toward me. I> >> >> >> >> accused> >> >> > him> >> >> >> >> of being a Kirk and he got very offended. All I know about him is> >> >> >> >> that> >> >> >> >> he is young and his folks go to, or went to the Unitarian church.> >> >> >> >> Not> >> >> >> >> much to go on but if this rings a bell, please contact me> >> >> >> >> off-list.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Also, since I fear a long winter with more crazy talk from Gabe> >> >> >> >> Storm,> >> >> >> >> followed by accusations that he and I are one and the same, I'm> >> >> >> >> trying> >> >> >> >> to prepare. Does anyone know if this kind of stuff constitutes> >> >> >> >> defamation, if I have any legal recourse, and if I do, does> >> >> >> >> anyone> >> >> > know> >> >> >> >> of a good lawyer whom I might contact for advice? I'm going to> >> >> >> >> try> >> >> >> >> to> >> >> >> >> contact some folks at WSU, since it seems that any defamation> >> >> >> >> against> >> >> > me> >> >> >> >> is bad for them, as well. Perhaps I can find some assistance> >> >> >> >> there.> >> >> > But> >> >> >> >> my guess is that nothing can be done. I'd love for someone to> >> >> >> >> prove> >> >> >> >> me> >> >> >> >> wrong!> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> I worry about the V. Of course, I've been unable to post without> >> >> >> >> one> >> >> >> >> pest or another for about two years now, but it seems that since> >> >> >> >> its> >> >> >> >> worked so well against me, various forces have decided to try it> >> >> >> >> on> >> >> >> >> everyone else. I lament what seems to me to be the loss of free> >> >> >> >> speech> >> >> >> >> in Moscow.> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Best, Joe> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------> >> >> >> > This message was sent by First Step Internet.> >> >> >> > http://www.fsr.com/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > =======================================================> >> >> >> > List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> >> >> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> >> >> > http://www.fsr.net> >> >> >> > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> >> > =======================================================> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> =======================================================> >> >> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> >> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> >> >> http://www.fsr.net> >> >> >> mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> >> =======================================================> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Jesus was a community organizer and Poncius Pilate was a governor."> >> >> >> >> >> > - Marilyn Trail, sister of Representative Tom trail (September 8,> >> >> > 2008)> >> >> >> >> >> > ----> >> >> >> >> >> > "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The> >> >> > college> >> >> > students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."> >> >> >> >> >> > - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------> >> >> > This message was sent by First Step Internet.> >> >> > http://www.fsr.com/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> ------------------------------> >> >>> >> >> =======================================================> >> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> >> http://www.fsr.net> >> >> mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> >> =======================================================> >> >>> >> >> End of Vision2020 Digest, Vol 29, Issue 2> >> >> *****************************************> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________> >> > Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive. 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