[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Sali's concerns put spotlight on ID cards issued by Mexico

Mon May 26 23:36:14 PDT 2008

Paul writes:

  Some people have limited horizons with respect to how they view the 
world around them.  They only have a few topics on the forefront of 
their minds, and everything starts to relate to those.

  Yeah, lots of people are like that. Some people are totally autistic like that. Others are ADHD and cannot concentrate on any single thing. Most people however, are somewhere in the middle. They cannot get obsessed with anything. I however, believe that all kinds of people are needed to make the world spin, and that is why God made us all different. 

   On other occasions, you derail a thread completely with 
trollish comments and insults, and act all "what, why are you attacking

me?" when they respond in kind.  At other times, your insults are more 
subtle, such as the one you threw my way in your first response to me
on this topic: "Well, if you don't see that as a problem, then I don't 
think anyone could convince you of anything being a problem."

Well, Paul, that is because I have trouble understanding what is insulting to other people, and they me. I insult people all the time, simply because I say something the wrong way, or just don't think it is insulting. I don't intentionally say anything to anyone that is offensive unless they first said something to me. I honestly didn't think what I said to you offensive.  

"Any opinions about whether or not banking, financial, and governmental 
institutions should change their policies regarding consular IDs, as 
opposed to blocking the entire consulate from being placed in this
state?"

  That is what they have now in Boise already. The only reason they expand the office is to handle the ID Cards, that is the biggest part. 

  Best Regards,

  Donovan

Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
  I wish there was a name for this little bit of wisdom I've learned; I'll 
try to get it across anyway.

Some people have limited horizons with respect to how they view the 
world around them. They only have a few topics on the forefront of 
their minds, and everything starts to relate to those. You've had 
friends that say the same things to you time and time again, right? 
They repeat the same old remarks, talk about the same subjects, and 
often forget that they've mentioned that to you a couple of times 
before. One corollary to this idea is that if your significant other 
starts accusing you out-of-the-blue of infidelity, you can be assured 
nine times out of ten that they are cheating on you. Anyway, I'm just 
reminded of this because of your response. I've seen mostly childish 
remarks from you, directed at anyone you correspond with. Sometimes you 
can stick with the topic of debate for three or four posts, for which I 
commend you. On other occasions, you derail a thread completely with 
trollish comments and insults, and act all "what, why are you attacking 
me?" when they respond in kind. At other times, your insults are more 
subtle, such as the one you threw my way in your first response to me on 
this topic: "Well, if you don't see that as a problem, then I don't 
think anyone could convince you of anything being a problem."

That's my free psychoanalysis of you, for what it's worth. I greatly 
suspect that our conversations won't last long, because I doubt you can 
stick to the topics of debate for very long without all the added remarks.

Any opinions about whether or not banking, financial, and governmental 
institutions should change their policies regarding consular IDs, as 
opposed to blocking the entire consulate from being placed in this state?

Paul

Donovan Arnold wrote:
> "Donovan, you can take your psychoanalysis of me, print it out on heavy
> paper, crinkle it up good, and shove it up your ass." Paul Rumelhart
> 
> I didn't psychoanalysis you, Paul. Please grow up and dispense with 
> the childish remarks.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Donovan
>
>
> */Paul Rumelhart /* wrote:
>
> Donovan Arnold wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > The Mexican government is issuing cards to allows felons and
> illegal
> > aliens to stay in the US putting US citizens at risk,
> overrunning our
> > government agencies, and costing the taxpayer billions of dollars
> > every year, and you say, "so what"?
>
> It sounds like the problem is that the US is placing too much
> importance
> in these ID cards. Why not solve that problem? The consulate does far
> more than just enable illegal aliens to work here, even if we assume
> that they do.
>
> >
> > Well, if you don't see that as a problem, then I don't think anyone
> > could convince you of anything being a problem.
>
> Donovan, you can take your psychoanalysis of me, print it out on
> heavy
> paper, crinkle it up good, and shove it up your ass. You get no more
> free passes from me.
>
> Paul
>
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Donovan
> >
> >
> >
> > */Paul Rumelhart /* wrote:
> >
> > The Mexican government, through their consulate, is planning on
> > issuing
> > Mexican identification to it's own citizens. So what? If there's a
> > problem, it's the fact that these are sometimes accepted by banks,
> > airlines, and some government agencies as valid ID. If that poses a
> > problem, then we fix that - not deny the consulate from opening in
> > our
> > state.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Donovan Arnold wrote:
> > > What you mean, I missed it? It is the point of the article, Mexico
> > > doesn't respect our laws.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Donovan
> > >
> > > */Dave /* wrote:
> > >
> > > You seem to have missed this line:
> > >
> > > "Within the U.S., the State Department has no authority to
> > > restrict the
> > > Mexican government from issuing identification to its own
> citizens,
> > > McInturff said."
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > Donovan Arnold wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "WASHINGTON - When the Mexican government opens its consulate in
> > > > Boise, one of the services it will offer is identification for
> > > Mexican
> > > > citizens living in the U.S., whether they're in this country
> > > legally
> > > > or not. " . . .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/390961.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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