[Vision2020] Not here [was just sarcasm? no!

[Paul Rumelhart]

Joe Campbell wrote:
> Please read this and compare the writing style to the other posts, and notice 
> the lack of contractions here. A very clumsy style here -- "There is a great 
> deal of difference between someone being discriminated against because they 
> are here taking a job, versus that of their race" -- versus the rather breezy 
> style of the other postings.
>
> Again, if anyone -- other than Christovan -- thinks I'm wrong I'd like to here it.
>   

I don't want to waste my mental resources (scarce as they sometimes are) 
on psychoanalyzing Donovan's writing style, but I will point out that 
you can get some idea who is posting from where by looking at the email 
headers.  If you have an email client that actually lets you see the 
headers (many Microsoft clients won't let you), then you will see 
something like this (taken from my copy of the email you are referencing):

>From - Wed May 14 18:02:30 2008
X-Account-Key: account2
X-UIDL: AFpXv9EAAIFiSCtqMwShAxFHSk8
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
X-Mozilla-Status2: 10000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:                                                                                 
X-Apparently-To: godshatter at yahoo.com via 209.191.87.90; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:47 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [64.126.132.9]
Authentication-Results: mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com  from=moscow.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 64.126.132.9  (EHLO trumpet.fsr.net) (64.126.132.9)
  by mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:45 -0700
Received: from trumpet.fsr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by trumpet.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4EMcjUJ098020;
	Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from vision2020-bounces at moscow.com)
Received: from mail-gw.fsr.net (mail-gw.fsr.net [64.126.132.22])
	by trumpet.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4EMciKU097901
	for <vision2020 at lists.fsr.com>; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:44 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from owner-vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net)
Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx242.postini.com [64.18.0.162])
	by mail-gw.fsr.net (8.13.1/8.12.3) with SMTP id m4EMct1v068083
	for <vision2020 at firststepinternet.com>;
	Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:55 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com)
Received: from source ([64.126.133.12]) (using TLSv1) by
	exprod5mx242.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; 
	Wed, 14 May 2008 18:38:50 EDT
Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx213.postini.com [64.18.0.72])
	by mx4.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id m4EMcgnB016777
	for <vision2020 at moscow.com>; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:43 -0700 (PDT)
	(envelope-from donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com)
Received: from source ([209.191.124.134]) by exprod5mx213.postini.com
	([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 2008 17:38:49 CDT
Received: (qmail 21370 invoked by uid 60001); 14 May 2008 22:38:49 -0000
X-YMail-OSG: ZAPVG5kVM1lUEPrGYOzFp6EeN.G1LAvCqFayFRDftkoa41Vpy2XU9h1rhnJuLWs5JQ--
Received: from [72.24.91.109] by web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP;
	Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 PDT
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
....



Don't let this cryptic stuff scare you.  What you want to look for is 
the "Received:" line farthest down the list, since they go in order from 
receiver to sender as you go down the list.  In this case, you see the 
following:


Received: from [72.24.91.109] by web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP;
	Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 PDT



The IP address should be the address Donovan is posting from 
(72.24.91.109).  The "via HTTP" part means he's connecting through the 
web to yahoo's email client.  I don't know if he posts from home, from 
work, from a friends place, from his neighbor's wifi connection, or if 
he's even the one using that account, but that IP address resolves to:

Non-authoritative answer:
109.91.24.72.in-addr.arpa    name = 91-109.72-24-cpe.cableone.net.

This is an IP owned by cableone.net, which appears to have connections 
in the Lewiston area but not in Moscow (unless their web page is out of 
date).

I've spot-checked a few messages, and so far all I've seen originate 
from this IP address.

That address could be an endpoint of an onion routing network like tor, 
but if that were the case I'd expect it to change frequently.

Donovan, can you confirm that you have Cable One as an internet 
provider?  Not that it's any of our business, but it might help us solve 
this "riddle".

Paul
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