[Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15

Wed May 14 00:19:42 PDT 2008

Mo,

  I agree that discrimination still exists. But I think the reason why the US, unlike other western nations, has not moved past these hang ups is precisely because of the tactics used to try and end it. 

  When we tell people they are wrong or should feel guilty because they are White, heterosexual, christian, non-disabled, male, etc, you quickly turn off the majority of people you are trying to convert.  

  If we just hire, fire, include people based on merit, we would end discrimination quickly.

  Best Regards,

  Donovan

Mo Hendrickson <hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu> wrote:
      .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body.hmmessage  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    It shouldn't matter, but unfortunately in our society, racism, sexism, classism, religious choice, sexual orientation, gender preference, disability, on and on and on, are still factors in discrimination.  We do not live in a color blind/gender blind etc society and until we do we need to make sure that people from under represented groups are at the table and part of the conversation, even if we may not agree with what they are saying.  It is important that we realize the inherent worth in all people for what they have to contribute to the betterment of our nation and world.  

I believe that Sue's original point was that this is a community event and at her first glance she did not see a woman on the panel.  An event that is trying to reach beyond faith lines should have a diverse panel.  I am very glad to see that it does, and I would imagine that there is plenty of diversity on the panel beyond the gender and race of those that are represented.  We all should be trying to make spaces for diversity to enter into the conversation so that one day we won't need to rely on those categories.  

-Mo

---------------------------------
  Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 15:26:46 -0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: suehovey at moscow.com; mhamilto at vetmed.wsu.edu; kjajmix1 at msn.com; london at moscow.com; vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15

  Why are some people so obsessed with a person's gender, race, religion, and sexual orientation? Does it matter?

  Best Regards,

  Donovan

Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
      .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P  {padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;}  .ExternalClass BODY.EC_hmmessage  {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}      Now I really stand corrected.  Thanks so much.  

  Sue 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hamilton, Mary Jo 
  To: Sue Hovey ; keely emerinemix ; Bill London ; vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:08 AM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15

  Chris Vaughn, representing the Bahai community, is also a woman.

  Mary Jo

  -----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Sue Hovey
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:08 AM
To: keely emerinemix; Bill London; vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15

  OOPS.  I didn't see Kayle's name.  Sorry for the comment.  But even so, 1 of 8 isn't all that representative.  Trinity Baptist, where I used to attend has never chosen to involve itself in any local Interfaith efforts.  The congregation perceives that kind of involvement as a dilution of Baptist tenets.    

  Sue
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: keely emerinemix 
  To: Sue Hovey ; Bill London ; vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:51 AM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15

Kayle Rice is the female pastor of the UU . . . what saddens me, though, is the decision of conservative Christian churches to not involve themselves in this.

Keely

---------------------------------
  From: suehovey at moscow.com
To: london at moscow.com; vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:34:04 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15

        It looks interesting--too bad, though, women on the Palouse must be thought not to have any thoughts that would be valued in this setting.

  Sue Hovey
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill London 
  To: vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net 
  Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 6:01 PM
  Subject: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15

  There will be a panel discussion this coming Thursday, May 15 7pm -9pm at the 1912 Center in Moscow

  Subject: Promoting Peace and Harmony on the Palouse/ Spritiual Approches from Interfaith Perspectives

  Not only is this an important subject, it is the first interfaith panel we have had in a long time - and I hope you will come to learn and to support this effort. Come and bring your friends.

  Speakers: Rev. Kayle Rice, Unitarian Universalist Church of the Palouse (Moderator)
  Sayed Daoud, Pullman Islamic Center
  Lawrence Fox, Jewish Community of the Palouse
  Nicholas Gier, Prof Emeritus Philosophy, UI and Unitarian Church
  Walter Hesford, Prof. of English, UI and Emanuel Lutheran Church
  Ryder Stevens, US Army Chaplain, Christian Science Lecturer
  Chris Vaughn, Bahai, Community

  Summary by: Fr. Bill Taylor, St. Augustine Center, Moscow

  Questions/comments will be accepted from the floor
  Refreshments will be served

  Sponsored by: The Common Ministry WSU, Christian Science Society of Moscow-Pullman, Pullman Islamic Center, Unitarian Universalist Church of the Palouse

---------------------------------

=======================================================
 List services made available by First Step Internet, 
 serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.   
               http://www.fsr.net                       
          mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
=======================================================

---------------------------------
  Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. Start sharing. =======================================================
List services made available by First Step Internet, 
serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. 
http://www.fsr.net 
mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
=======================================================

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20080514/454d67d9/attachment.html 