[Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15

[Sunil Ramalingam]

I don't think anyone's saying 'Separate,' Kai.  I'll bet Chas does say 'Equal,' though.

Sunil

> From: editor at lataheagle.com
> To: chasuk at gmail.com; hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu
> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:53:13 -0700
> CC: vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15
> 
> Fruit salad? Or to put it more simply, "Separate, but equal"?
> 
> 
> Now, where have I heard that before?????
> 
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> From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:36 PM
> To: "Mo Hendrickson" <hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu>
> Cc: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>; 
> <vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15
> 
> > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Donovan Arnold
> > <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> asked:
> >
> >> Why are some people so obsessed with a person's gender, race, religion, 
> >> and
> >> sexual orientation? Does it matter?
> >
> > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Mo Hendrickson
> > <hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu> replied:
> >
> >> It is important that we realize the inherent worth in all people
> >> for what they have to contribute to the betterment of our nation and 
> >> world.
> >
> > And:
> >
> >> We all should be trying to make spaces for diversity to enter
> >> into the conversation so that one day we won't need to rely on those
> >> categories.
> >
> > For Mo's first point, unconditional agreement.  For his latter point,
> > I provisionally agree, as long as we are not talking about
> > homogenizing those categories to the point that they are nonexistent.
> > I'm not a melting pot proponent (an assimilationist).  I'm a fruit
> > salad proponent (a multiculturalist).  The Mauritian Catholic priest
> > Henri Souchon spoke of fruit salad and fruit compote.  I wish I could
> > quote him directly, but I am depressingly monolingual.  But I can
> > quote from someone who explicates his point very well:
> >
> > http://folk.uio.no/geirthe/Multiculturalism.html
> >
> > "... Souchon sees two possible scenarios for Mauritius regarding the
> > relationship between ethnic boundaries and the formation of identity
> > categories oblivious to ethnicity. He calls them the fruit salad and
> > the fruit compote, respectively. In the fruit salad, the components
> > are clearly distinct; ethnic boundaries are intact, and reflexively
> > "rooted" identites are secure and stable. In the fruit compote, on the
> > other hand, the different fruits are squashed and mixed together with
> > substantial use of force. (This metaphor, it may be noted, is a
> > variant of the American melting pot metaphor.) The result of the
> > compote de fruit, in père Souchon's view, would be uprootedness,
> > nihilism and confusion. He himself therefore supports the fruit salad
> > variety..."
> >
> > I was in a bookstore in Vancouver, B.C. a few years ago and read some
> > translated Souchon expressing these ideas, and they spoke to my
> > cosmopolitan soul.  I've thought of myself as a fruit salad guy ever
> > since.
> >
> > Chas
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> Kai Eiselein
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