[Vision2020] Hawkins Water and Sewer Infrastructure Costs

[Garrett Clevenger]

g writes:

"When we did disagree he didn't get all cranky. I
enjoy that in a person."


I agree, I enjoy that in a person, too.  But then
again, you probably didn't insinuate he was a liar, or
say, "I don't care about your overall
world view" which is much different than your updated
"the world view parts I mentioned earlier that have
nothing to do with the current topic" you just wrote. 
If I misinterpret your crankiness, then I apologize.

Frankly, though, I think you come across just as
cranky as you may think I am.  However, I wouldn't be
displaying it to you if you hadn't taken that tone
with me and others on this list.  I much prefer
keeping the discussion civil, so while we may have
different world views, can we agree to keep the
crankiness out of the discussions?

Thank you,

Garrett

--- "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Now that you seem to have the anti-Bush,
> anti-Wal-Mart, 
> anti-"aggressiveness" screed out of your system (the
> world view parts I 
> mentioned earlier that have nothing to do with the
> current topic) back to 
> the matter at hand.
> 
> $3,217,975.00 for water and 2,738,604.00 for sewer
> comes a lot closer to 
> being 6 million. My point remains the same. Not one
> penny of that amount 
> will be covered by the taxpayers of the City of
> Moscow. (the dreaded 
> subsidy) While you were at the Whitman Co. site I
> assume that you also took 
> a look at the Preliminary Development Agreement I
> referred to previously. In 
> it you will note that Whitman Co. is ready, willing,
> and able to float the 
> bond necessary to make the Hawkins development
> happen whether or not Moscow 
> steps up and provides "an alternative source." It
> also makes no mention of 
> reducing the amount of the bond should this happen
> although, in all 
> likelihood, it would. By refusing to partner with
> our Pullman neighbors we 
> do absolutely nothing to hinder the shopping center
> you so abhor and succeed 
> in depriving Moscow rate payers of a very
> significant amount of money. The 
> only thing that Moscow is "giving away" is the exact
> same water that would 
> have been pumped either way and placing a slightly
> greater burden on our 
> existing waste water facility. We gain by having
> Hawkins/Whitman in the 
> revenue pipeline to help pay for any future upgrades
> to these systems that 
> may be required. The choice for our city government
> was obvious, come to the 
> table and enjoy its measure or stand back and look
> on longingly while 
> licking its ravenous chops. Either way, supper was
> served.
> 
> With regard to the paloustics site, I am very aware
> of it and visit it 
> relatively often. Since I am an evil Latah Co.
> conservative and the site is 
> mainly an evil Whitman Co. Conservative blog, I
> seldom post there. Tom 
> Forbes and I agree in a great many areas but, we
> don't always see exactly 
> eye to eye on all matters. I did have the great
> pleasure of hoisting a few 
> with him last year and found him to be a good guy.
> When we did disagree he 
> didn't get all cranky. I enjoy that in a person.
> 
> g
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Garrett Clevenger" <garrettmc at verizon.net>
> To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:08 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Hawkins Water and Sewer
> Infrastructure Costs
> 
> 
> > Who needs newspapers when you have access to
> > government records on the web?
> >
> > Doing a little digging on Whitman County's website
> > gives this link, which includes the cost of water
> and
> > sewer infrastructure Whitman County would be
> paying
> > for if not for the "agreement."  I calculate over
> $4
> > million, but I'm not sure of all the itemized
> costs.
> > What do you think?
> >
> >
>
http://www.whitmancounty.org/PDFs/Infrastructure_Cost_Breakdown.pdf
> >
> >
> > This blog has a lot of articles (and cute banners
> such
> > as "Liberal Advisory I Am An Evil Conservative"
> (at
> > least he's honest) and other right-wing
> blatherings)
> > regarding Hawkins.  Maybe g is familiar with this
> > site?
> >
> >
>
http://palousitics.blogspot.com/search?q=hawkins+water+rights
> >
> >
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