[Vision2020] Recall the city council

[bill bonte]

If what you want for Moscow is growth, what you're getting if Hawkins  
comes to fruition, is no growth in Moscow.  Washington benefits,  
Moscow loses.  A vote for the present council was a vote for no growth  
at all.
Smart growth would have better.

Bill Bonte
On Mar 23, 2008, at 2:16 PM, <pkraut at moscow.com> wrote:

> This attitude is exactly why Aaron is no longer on the council. If  
> 68% of
> the city of Moscow lives on the other side of town from the current  
> 'big'
> mall why are we still only building on that side of town? We won't! We
> need more shopping on this side where people live...end of story. It  
> is
> elitist at best for you and others to decide that everyone in town  
> will
> shop only where you say without considering the needs of everyone in
> town. The old council was voted in by an group who saw this as the one
> and only way to grow or change anything and you might note they are no
> longer there. When we all learned what they meant by 'smart growth' we
> realized that is was not what we needed nor wanted.
>
>
>
>> First, no one threatened the previous council. They were elected in
> part because of their
> ideas about smart growth vs. growth at any cost.
>>
>> Second, if and when the Hawkins area starts to develop, it will  
>> have as
> much to do with
> the current council selling water rights and opening up the flood  
> gates
> (no pun intended)
> as anything else. Why not complain about that?
>>
>> Third, some of us (me at least) were opposed to the Super Walmart
> location -- on the east
> side of town, which would have caused huge traffic problems -- as  
> opposed
> to Walmart per
> se. I'd rather see Walmart develop on the west side of town rather  
> than
> the east. I'd
> rather even see it developed in Washington than across from the East  
> Side
> Mall.
>>
>> Fourth, one might ask, Why didn't Super Walmart develop on the west
> side of town? Part of
> the answer is that the area of town which was zoned for that type of
> purpose (viz. A
> Street) was eventually turned into apartments. It happened well before
> the mayor and
> previous council were in office, when back door deals were common and
> ignorance of the
> comprehensive plan was celebrated. I fear much the same from the  
> current
> council, as the
> details of the last Hawkins seem to reveal.
>>
>> Find out the facts, Donovan, and criticize the folks who deserve
> criticism. If A Street
> were available for Super Walmart -- which would benefit most of the  
> folks
> in town -- as
> opposed to apartments -- which benefit a minority -- there would not  
> have
> been the level
> of opposition that there was. I wouldn't have opposed such a  
> development.
> Not that I would
> have liked it -- I'm still anti-Walmart for reasons other than their
> location on the
> Palouse -- but I wouldn't have opposed a Super Walmart on A Street.
>>
>> --
>> Joe Campbell
>>
>> ---- Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> =============
>> Like we didn't see this coming?
>>
>>  The Moscow City Council rejected fair efforts by Wal-Mart to play
> ball according to the
> rules laid out by Moscow. Now Wal-Mart is going across the street to  
> play
> ball over there.
> You didn't think that was going to happen? Of course it is.
>>
>>  This is why people, economic professors included, were saying to the
> then Moscow City
> Council and Mayor to work with Wal-Mart so we have the revenue, set  
> the
> environmental
> standards, and the layout to our advantage.
>>
>>  When a handful of noisy vocal, we know what's best, residents showed
> up to threaten the
> council if they voted to support Wal-Mart, they with that vote, gave  
> 100%
> of the power,
> revenue, and jobs to Whitman County, just one mile away. Was it  
> worth it?
> I think not.
>>
>>  Wal-Mart is much bigger than Moscow, and will have a Super Center in
> the area,
> regardless of a few efforts by some community members. The Anti-Wal- 
> Mart
> effort was only
> successful in preventing a Green Wal-Mart that brought jobs and  
> revenue
> to the community
> from coming into the Moscow city limits. It was not successful in
> anything else.
>>
>>  Best Regards,
>>
>>  Donovan
>>
>>
>>
>> roger hayes <rhayes at turbonet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Moscow citizens need to take a good look at what the city council's
>>> decision to provide water and sewer to the Hawkins company will  
>>> bring.
>>> Yesterday's Daily News posted some serious speculation about WalMart
>>> building a Super Center in the Hawkin's development. Earlier, I did
>>> have a suspicion that was a distinct possibility. I could not see  
>>> how
>>> a Lowes could be the anchor store. WalMart, Idaho division, remains
>>> tight lipped about its plans, but would not rule out the  
>>> possibility.
>>> A local WalMart employee speculated that it is a reality.
>>> By providing water and sewer service across the state line, Moscow
>>> taxpayers may now subsidize the construction of WalMart. Whitman
>>> county taxpayers are providing over 10 million in infrastructure
>>> development. This is an ultimate irony since both communities have
>>> waged campaigns against the building of a Super Center in their
>>> communities. And in Moscow's case, we are dealing a vast economic
> blow
>>> to our community.
>>> Much more is going on than we citizens know. What other "deals" are
>>> happening behind closed doors?
>>> I do feel that if WalMart comes in it will prove how inept, and most
>>> likely, corrupt the current Moscow city council is. The council will
>>> no doubt plead ignorance, and do so with an arrogant smile.
>> We need to do something and do it quickly. Any ideas?
>>>
>>
>>> Roger Hayes
>>>
>>
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