[Vision2020] Recall the city council (proofread)

g. crabtree jampot at roadrunner.com
Sun Mar 23 12:54:46 PDT 2008


I know the tactic is to repeat the lie so often it becomes accepted fact but, Moscow is, in fact, subsidizing nothing. Hawkins will be paying its own way at full market rate. Using your "subsidy" rational the U of I is subsidizing the education of Washington's students by allowing them access to our classrooms and instructors at out of state rates.

"This is an ultimate irony since both communities have  waged campaigns against the building of a Super Center in their  communities."

Classic case of being careful what you wish for along with the law of unintended consequences. Irony indeed!

"...in Moscow's case, we are dealing a vast economic blow  to our community."

How curious, when it was about preventing a Super Wal-Mart at Mtn. View and the Troy Rd. the anti argument was how Wal-Mart didn't really bring much revenue to the community and that since there would be one in Pullman, Moscow would have no need for such a business. This strikes me as a perfect example of talking out of both sides of ones mouth.

The rest of your post seems to consist of innuendo, idle speculation, and unsubstantiated accusations but I do agree that we should do something. Might I suggest giving the repetitive falsehoods and specious outrage a rest? I, personally will be thanking our current council for their diligent efforts in making Moscow something other then a shriveling suburb of Pullman.

g


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: g. crabtree 
  To: roger hayes ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 12:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Recall the city council


  "By providing water and sewer service across the state line, Moscow taxpayers may now subsidize the construction of Wal-Mart."

  I know the tactic is to repeat the lie so often it becomes accepted fact but, Moscow is, in fact, subsidizing nothing. Hawkins will be paying its own way at full market rate. Using your "subsidy" rational the U of I is subsidizing the education of Washington's students by allowing them access to our classrooms and instructors at out of state rates.

  "This is an ultimate irony since both communities have  waged campaigns against the building of a Super Center in their  communities."

  Classic case of being careful what you wish for along with the law of unintended consequences. Irony indeed!

  "...in Moscow's case, we are dealing a vast economic blow  to our community."

  How curious, when it was about preventing a Super Wal-Mart at Mtn. View and the Troy Rd. the anti argument was how Wal-Mart didn't really bring much revenue to the community and that since there would be one in Pullman, Moscow would have no need for such a business. This strikes me as a perfect example of talking out of both sides of ones mouth.

  The rest of your post seems to consist of innuendo, idle speculation, and unsubstantiated accusations but I do agree that we should do something. Might I suggest giving the repetitive falsehoods specious outrage a rest? I, personally with be thanking our current council for their diligent efforts in making Moscow something other then a shriveling suburb of Pullman.

  g



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "roger hayes" <rhayes at turbonet.com>
  To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
  Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:40 AM
  Subject: [Vision2020] Recall the city council


  > 
  >> Moscow citizens need to take a good look at what the city council's 
  >> decision to provide water and sewer to the Hawkins company will bring.
  >> Yesterday's Daily News posted some serious speculation about WalMart 
  >> building a Super Center in the Hawkin's development. Earlier, I did 
  >> have a suspicion that was a distinct possibility. I could not see how 
  >> a Lowes could be the anchor store. WalMart, Idaho division, remains 
  >> tight lipped about its plans, but would not rule out the possibility. 
  >> A local WalMart employee speculated that it is a reality.
  >> By providing water and sewer service across the state line, Moscow 
  >> taxpayers may now subsidize the construction of WalMart. Whitman 
  >> county taxpayers are providing over 10 million in infrastructure 
  >> development.  This is an ultimate irony since both communities have 
  >> waged campaigns against the building of a Super Center in their 
  >> communities. And in Moscow's case, we are dealing a vast economic blow 
  >> to our community.
  >> Much more is going on than we citizens know. What other "deals" are 
  >> happening behind closed doors?
  >> I do feel that if WalMart comes in it will prove how inept, and most 
  >> likely, corrupt the current Moscow city council is. The council will 
  >> no doubt plead ignorance, and do so with an arrogant smile.
  > We need to do something and do it quickly. Any ideas?
  >>
  > 
  >> Roger Hayes
  >>
  > 
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