[Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year oldinArizona

Sat Mar 22 09:16:47 PDT 2008

No, Betsy -- thank you for the grim reminder.  Loyalty oaths and rote exercises of something that looks like patriotism but lacks the courage have no place in this or any other country.

Keely

From: betsyd at turbonet.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:41:28 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year	oldinArizona

This really happened in WWII, but the poor Jews 
were sent back to Germany to die in gas chambers.

Sorry for the grim reminder.

Betsy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  bookpeople 
  of moscow 
  To: betsyd at turbonet.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 8:47 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New pledge of 
  alligance written by a 15 year oldinArizona

  And there are thousands of babies born in this 
  country each day who are, in fact, citizens, who cannot say the pledge.  
  When they are old enough we could have a sorting process whereby 
  those who say it get a stamp of citizenship and those who refuse get sent off 
  to one of those 100s countries you mention.  Of course, if they 
  aren't wanted there we could just keep them on some ship and let them 
  float from port to port--sort of modern day Philip Nolans.  
  (Remember--THE MAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY)  And Geo. Bush wouldn't even have 
  to build a fence to keep them out.  Simple solutions for 
  ..............................

  SueH 

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: 
    Donovan Arnold 
    To: Tom Hansen ; Saundra 
    Lund ; 'Garrett Clevenger' ; 'Vision 
    2020' 
    Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 4:22 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New pledge of 
    alligance written by a 15 year oldin Arizona

    I think everyone that refuses the pledge should not be allowed 
    citizenship. If you don't like this country, there are 100s of others to 
    choose from. 

    Best Regards,

    Donovan

Tom Hansen <idahotom at hotmail.com> 
    wrote:

      "The Pledge of Allegiance" as acknowledged and honored by most of us 
      (myself included) . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfjZj4NY7EM

Another 
      Pledge of Allegiance reflective of others among us . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGwssbm2V5E

You 
      make the call, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, 
      Idaho

> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:18:39 -0700
> From: 
      sslund_2007 at verizon.net
> To: garrettmc at verizon.net; 
      vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New pledge of 
      alligance written by a 15 year old in Arizona
> 
> Hi 
      Garrett,
> 
> Don't worry -- you didn't miss anything, I'm 
      sorry to say :-( I really
> liked Roger's forward about Attitude and 
      so was disappointed to read the
> forwarded new Pledge of Allegiance 
      School Prayer :-( It was nothing more
> than yet another Christian 
      refusing to accept that we've got non-Christian
> kids in public 
      schools whose faith is just as important to them as Christian
> 
      views are to Christians.
> 
> 
> Loving My Delete 
      Key,
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
> 
> The only 
      thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> 
      nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
> 
> ***** Original material 
      contained herein is Copyright 2008 through life plus
> 70 years, 
      Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce 
      outside
> the Vision 2020 forum without the express written 
      permission of the
> author.*****
> 
> -----Original 
      Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
      [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Garrett 
      Clevenger
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 10:11 AM
> To: Vision 
      2020
> Subject: [Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 
      year old in
> Arizona
> 
> I couldn't read the 
      attachment sent by Roger, but here
> is the "pledge" I say. 
      Personally, I have a hard time
> pledging allegiance to a 
      flag...
> 
> 
> I pledge allegiance to this 
      Earth
> and the life that makes this place possible
> and to 
      all of creation on which we depend.
> One planet, under the 
      sun,
> indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
> 

> 
> Not nearly as controversial as the standard 
      pledge,
> now is it?;)
> 
> gclev
> 
> 

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