[Vision2020] Ripping the Easter Bunny's Head Off : Was:Of, By &
Joe Campbell
joekc at adelphia.net
Tue Mar 18 23:03:50 PDT 2008
Dave,
I agree with you, sort of, BUT I would make two points.
1/ It cannot possibly be the case that "Accepted theories are only accepted
after ALL the alternative theories are proven false." For any one theory there
are an infinite number of alternatives. Showing that all of them are false
would be impossible. Things like simplicity, explanatory power, etc. play a
role in our choice of one scientific theory over another. This goes beyond
empirical confirmation or refutation.
2/ Science never proves anything only if your standard for proof is
demonstrative certainty (such as we find in math and formal logic). If the
standards are loosened -- induction, abduction, inference to the best
explanation, etc. -- you'd have to admit that science proves some things.
--
Joe Campbell
---- Dave <tiedye at turbonet.com> wrote:
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Sorry Rodger, but this is incorrect as well (and a pet peeve of mine).
Science, with the exception of some Mathematics, does not ever "prove"
anything. Science is function of disproof. Accepted theories are only
accepted after ALL the alternative theories are proven false. But still
they are only considered accepted theories, never a "proof".
So to restate your sentence correctly one could say "Science is based on
disproving the negative based on repeatable results."
For some reason it seems that few people other then scientists
understand this vital concept.
Dave
lfalen wrote:
> Donovan
> You are correct in that you can not prove there is no god. Science does not work that way. It is difficult if not imposable to prove a negative. Science is based on proving a positive based on repeatable results. This is why any religious belief should be separate from science. Both have value but should not be mixed together.
> Roger
>
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